1 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:03,750 it's gonna be a good one 2 00:00:08,790 --> 00:00:07,279 for sure oh yeah this is another episode 3 00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:08,800 of ufo garage 4 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:10,960 i'm ben i'm joe and this is where we 5 00:00:16,310 --> 00:00:12,400 talk about ufos 6 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,320 aliens and all things weird yep 7 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:18,720 and we also talk about how ben has a 8 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:24,950 my beard your beard yeah i did 9 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:28,840 it's a it's a short beard it's called a 10 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:31,519 sheared you know what i mean oh 11 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:34,960 dude it's a it's a 12 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:37,920 shovel it's a stubble it's a sheared uh 13 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:38,800 shirt 14 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,440 sheer stubble shovel i'm trying to make 15 00:00:45,029 --> 00:00:43,680 it cool it's not 16 00:00:46,709 --> 00:00:45,039 all right you know what is cool though 17 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:46,719 man what 18 00:00:52,229 --> 00:00:49,760 we got jocelyn johnson with us today man 19 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:52,239 johnson buckner it's gonna be sweet yeah 20 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:54,079 she's gonna talk about some good stuff 21 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:55,840 you guys are gonna like this one she's 22 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:57,120 my fave dude 23 00:01:00,229 --> 00:00:59,039 dude she's so awesome she's the queen 24 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:00,239 dude yeah she 25 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:02,239 she's the one that started it all really 26 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:03,840 yeah yep she's the one who 27 00:01:07,910 --> 00:01:06,640 introduced us to all these people she's 28 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,920 the first person that we 29 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:10,080 met uh you know kind of in the ufo 30 00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:11,200 community 31 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:14,240 uh she's just such a sweet lady uh she's 32 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:15,360 really awesome 33 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:18,720 and uh and uh yeah we're about to talk 34 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:19,200 to her 35 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:21,600 yeah yeah we are no we are out we don't 36 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,000 want yours no we are though 37 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,479 yeah dude you better watch it yeah we 38 00:01:29,030 --> 00:01:28,320 will we will start talking to her oh 39 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:29,040 [\h__\h] dude 40 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:30,960 let's give her a call all right all 41 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:32,700 right 42 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:37,119 [Music] 43 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:41,749 hey what's up jocelyn 44 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,910 it's going really good how are you doing 45 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:45,119 i'm doing well 46 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:47,040 thanks did you get your camera all set 47 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:48,799 up yeah we got it all set 48 00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:50,399 up finally you know it's always 49 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:52,079 something every show we do 50 00:01:56,230 --> 00:01:54,000 there's something we're like almost 50 51 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:56,240 episodes in and every time it's always 52 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:01,670 well of course it wouldn't it wouldn't 53 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:04,320 be any fun if it was nothing all the 54 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:05,520 time 55 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:08,640 i guess i'll take that yeah it's always 56 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:10,800 got to be some struggle 57 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:13,360 that's right exactly well what have you 58 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:14,640 been doing since the last time we 59 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:17,920 we talked to you well um 60 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:20,640 i've been working on my garden i think 61 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:22,239 that everybody should be working on 62 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:24,560 their gardens right now 63 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:28,160 um this uh business about 64 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,040 truckers not going to certain areas 65 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:35,280 to deliver food has got me a little 66 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:36,239 worried 67 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:40,160 but uh you know back in the day 68 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:43,599 when um my abductions 69 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:47,519 got really uh there for about three 70 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:49,440 years or very 71 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:53,200 heavy and a lot of creepy experiments 72 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:55,040 and that type of thing and 73 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:57,040 one time i just decided i wasn't going 74 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:58,480 to be afraid anymore 75 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:01,200 i was just going to get to the bottom of 76 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:03,360 whatever was happening 77 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:06,480 and so i asked uh this 78 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:09,599 et that uh i had met and 79 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,400 i actually sent you a painting of her i 80 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:14,400 called her andrea 81 00:03:22,229 --> 00:03:19,200 um she told me 82 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:22,239 that um 83 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:25,760 you know there's a lot 84 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:29,280 layers of 85 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:32,480 things that are going on now if you got 86 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:35,040 abducted and you had a creepy experience 87 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:36,640 and you weren't 88 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:40,159 afraid or you know of the 89 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:42,319 experimentation going on with your body 90 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:44,319 you can ask them questions 91 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,000 and they would actually answer you and 92 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:51,360 uh i got the impression 93 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:54,720 from her that it was going to be about 94 00:04:02,949 --> 00:03:58,799 this time that things um 95 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:02,959 are going to be real dicey for humanity 96 00:04:06,149 --> 00:04:05,599 and uh the biggest thing that i worried 97 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:06,159 about 98 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:09,360 when i came away from that experience 99 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:12,480 was food was feeding everybody 100 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:15,599 absolutely and uh i 101 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:17,600 i think you know it's really important 102 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:19,040 for us to 103 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:22,400 this summer be self-sufficient 104 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:25,759 in everything everything uh 105 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:33,990 we don't know what to believe anymore 106 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,639 because 107 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:36,960 everything is oh yeah wear a mess no 108 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:38,800 don't wear a mask oh no you know you can 109 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:39,520 wear a mask 110 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:42,560 right yeah and uh 111 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:46,240 now we're finding out that maybe 112 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:49,919 the coved isn't as bad as a flu 113 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:52,960 um i don't know about you guys but when 114 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:54,000 you went home 115 00:05:00,950 --> 00:04:57,440 after ufo con in last 116 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:00,960 february yeah did you guys get sick 117 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:04,160 no no we were we were healthy as healthy 118 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:05,360 as oxes 119 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:09,199 yeah okay well but lorien got sick 120 00:05:15,430 --> 00:05:12,240 i flew out of uh san francisco 121 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:15,440 and into phoenix now san francisco 122 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:16,639 wasn't bad 123 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,960 it was sort of a you know laid-back 124 00:05:23,909 --> 00:05:20,479 airport compared to 125 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:23,919 phoenix back to phoenix and it was like 126 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:25,039 i don't know 127 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:27,840 it was like a cattle call or something 128 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:28,560 and 129 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:31,680 uh there were you know nobody at that 130 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:32,400 time 131 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:34,880 we all knew about covid but nobody was 132 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:35,440 saying 133 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:39,680 wash hands 134 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:42,479 but they weren't really saying anything 135 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:42,960 else 136 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:45,199 yeah it wasn't a big deal at that time 137 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:47,759 yeah and about about 10 days later 138 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:50,560 i start i got a really bad sore throat i 139 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:52,800 couldn't hear anything my ears got all 140 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:54,160 plugged up 141 00:06:01,670 --> 00:05:58,160 um i had aches and pains basically i got 142 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:01,680 the flu and i was down for about 10 days 143 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:05,039 and my husband got it as well 144 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:08,400 oh man and uh you know 145 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:11,199 so i kind of feel like i had it so if it 146 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:14,080 comes around here i know i have immunity 147 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:16,639 yeah um well that's good we don't we 148 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:17,680 don't need you getting in 149 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:20,880 getting sick jocelyn we need you no i i 150 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:23,360 had it it seems like every time i go to 151 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:24,880 a conference 152 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:26,960 i come back with the conference crud 153 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:28,560 whatever was going on 154 00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:32,560 you know there i bring it home 155 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:35,680 and i try to even isolate myself from my 156 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:37,199 husband because 157 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:41,280 i just from the last uh three four years 158 00:06:45,189 --> 00:06:41,759 of 159 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:45,199 uh going i would always come home 160 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:48,319 with a cold or you know 161 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:51,520 something yeah just cold i guess that's 162 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:52,960 what happens when you get around a lot 163 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:54,160 of people and when 164 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:56,479 when you're young and and you know going 165 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:57,199 to like 166 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:00,720 uh music festivals and stuff and 167 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:02,960 and everything it doesn't doesn't really 168 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:03,919 happen but i 169 00:07:08,150 --> 00:07:06,479 i definitely feel you on that i don't i 170 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:08,160 didn't get sick but i definitely was 171 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:08,479 like 172 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:11,840 after 173 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:16,319 get sick but definitely felt uh 174 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:20,560 something it started for me was just i 175 00:07:24,870 --> 00:07:22,880 i had to force myself to get up out of 176 00:07:28,309 --> 00:07:24,880 my chair on a daily basis 177 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:28,319 and and then then i started getting achy 178 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:29,759 and all of that but 179 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:32,960 yeah certainly the loss of uh 180 00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:36,080 you know getting up and about was was 181 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:37,840 the worst part of it 182 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:41,280 and uh i and i kind of think that 183 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:45,280 i got it from the phoenix airport 184 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:49,199 and because it was 185 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:52,639 it was just crazy 186 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,240 mayhem i'm i mean there was a 187 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:00,960 uh long line for the women's bathroom 188 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:03,759 there's always a long line for the women 189 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:06,080 don't have that problem but there was 190 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:08,720 this hugely long line and when i 191 00:08:14,309 --> 00:08:11,919 went in there uh they didn't have any 192 00:08:17,189 --> 00:08:14,319 paper towels so everybody is using those 193 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:17,199 hand air dryers oh yeah they're just 194 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:18,400 those things are like floating 195 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:22,560 in the vinyl and there were 196 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:25,360 you know there was no soap there was no 197 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:26,720 hot water 198 00:08:33,029 --> 00:08:29,759 um you know and people were running in 199 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:33,039 and out and and uh just being 200 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:36,800 crazy um sorry 201 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:40,000 we could hear your hounds my 202 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:43,360 dog my dog is uh playing with the 203 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:45,279 neighbor dog they 204 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:48,399 they do this on a daily basis sounds 205 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:50,160 like it sounds like my house 206 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:52,320 yeah the neighbor dog comes over and 207 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:54,000 starts barking at my dog 208 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:56,320 and then they start running up and down 209 00:09:00,389 --> 00:08:58,080 the fence line 210 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:00,399 and uh you know you know what they're 211 00:09:03,269 --> 00:09:01,920 saying right they're arguing about who's 212 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:03,279 the best boy 213 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:15,509 yeah and uh so how are you guys been 214 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:16,160 playing 215 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:19,920 how's how's the baby joe oh man she's 216 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:23,120 awesome yeah she's doing real good it's 217 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:25,360 getting to that fun point to where like 218 00:09:28,550 --> 00:09:28,160 now she's starting to smile and laugh 219 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,560 and 220 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:31,440 you know do all that stuff so yeah it's 221 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:32,080 uh 222 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:36,720 melts my heart every day 223 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:40,560 you know babies are just so magical 224 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:44,160 and beautiful and oh she definitely is 225 00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:45,920 man uh you know and it's weird because 226 00:09:51,590 --> 00:09:49,440 she is she kind of like she kind of 227 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:51,600 opened this part of me that i didn't 228 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:52,800 know existed 229 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:55,279 like kind of like this lovey-dovey like 230 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:56,080 mushy 231 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:58,720 like side of me like i just really had 232 00:10:01,350 --> 00:09:59,120 that 233 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:01,360 and she like sounds like somebody got 234 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:02,240 under your skin 235 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:04,560 oh she definitely did she definitely did 236 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:05,440 you know there's 237 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:07,440 there's you know and i usually get 238 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:09,120 accused of that it's like 239 00:10:12,389 --> 00:10:11,279 you're not very emotional or like you 240 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:12,399 know you just don't 241 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:14,640 show the lovey-dovey side very often but 242 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,800 man when that baby came 243 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:19,200 i say the goofiest stuff all the time 244 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:21,120 now 245 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:24,640 yeah yeah 246 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:26,800 there's there's nothing better so you're 247 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:29,120 getting plenty of sleep 248 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:32,640 uh well i wouldn't say that but you know 249 00:10:36,949 --> 00:10:35,200 uh we get enough you know honestly my my 250 00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:36,959 wife is the real hero because 251 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:39,519 you know i work i get up at like five in 252 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:40,720 the morning 253 00:10:43,829 --> 00:10:42,720 and then i usually get home you know 254 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:43,839 maybe around like 5 255 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:46,560 30 closer to six maybe a little after 256 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,519 sometimes 257 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:49,920 you know so uh she's nice enough to kind 258 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:50,800 of do those 259 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:53,920 middle of the night wake ups um but yeah 260 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:55,600 i mean and then on the weekends we we 261 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:58,079 switch shifts on the weekends i i take 262 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:59,120 them again but 263 00:11:02,710 --> 00:11:00,959 for the most part i mean she's she's you 264 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:02,720 know she's been great it's been a lot of 265 00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:04,000 teamwork but you know 266 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:07,360 my wife's the real hero here well you 267 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:09,440 know that's the reason why they invented 268 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:11,680 the family bed i remember back in the 269 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:12,000 day 270 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:15,680 getting a crib and a bassinet and 271 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:19,040 i never used them i just you know 272 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:22,720 we i'd get up the first night 273 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:25,920 and i was so tired i just 274 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:28,240 wrapped the baby up and brought her into 275 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:30,000 the bed with us 276 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:32,399 and because the mom and baby are still 277 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:33,680 on the same 278 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:37,360 sleep schedules i got to the point where 279 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:39,680 i could roll over change the baby with 280 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:40,480 one 281 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:47,360 and uh with my eyes closed and 282 00:11:50,629 --> 00:11:49,279 stick a tit in her mouth and i would go 283 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:50,639 back to sleep 284 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:52,880 my husband never even woke up that's 285 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:53,920 awesome 286 00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:57,360 recommend it 287 00:12:01,990 --> 00:11:59,519 man yeah that's skill that's 288 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:02,000 multi-talented 289 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:03,760 i can i can barely change a diaper with 290 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:05,519 two hands 291 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:09,920 much less one you'll get better believe 292 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:10,399 me 293 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:12,959 yeah and and you know it lasts such a 294 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,800 short time 295 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:16,560 you know you'll look back on this time 296 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:18,639 and and think i could never 297 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:21,600 think of how small they were you know oh 298 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:22,800 i know 299 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:25,920 yeah how i remember my husband always 300 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:27,440 used to carry my 301 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:29,120 daughters around what we call the 302 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:30,560 football um 303 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:33,680 hold you know and the baby would just 304 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:36,720 lay on his arm and he would cradle her a 305 00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:38,160 little skull 306 00:12:42,150 --> 00:12:40,079 and he would just walk around like that 307 00:12:45,269 --> 00:12:42,160 all the time yeah 308 00:12:47,190 --> 00:12:45,279 you know you'll look at them 309 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:47,200 just a couple of years later and you 310 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:54,389 they sure grow fast yeah they definitely 311 00:12:58,629 --> 00:12:56,240 do i'm glad that you 312 00:12:59,910 --> 00:12:58,639 enjoyed that because you know that was 313 00:13:02,550 --> 00:12:59,920 um one of the 314 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:02,560 the times that i had my baby in bed with 315 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:03,200 me 316 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:06,560 um was one of the most 317 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:15,030 contact experiences that i ever had 318 00:13:20,949 --> 00:13:18,560 and that was you know we were 319 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:20,959 my daughter was about nine months old 320 00:13:25,269 --> 00:13:21,760 and i had 321 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:25,279 an older daughter who was seven and 322 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:28,399 uh i i woke up because 323 00:13:34,069 --> 00:13:32,000 i could hear my daughter talking and not 324 00:13:36,790 --> 00:13:34,079 only talking but 325 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:36,800 she was sort of yelling and she was 326 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:38,720 saying put me down put me down put me 327 00:13:43,189 --> 00:13:39,120 down 328 00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:43,199 oh whoa i i opened my eyes 329 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:46,800 and there were little grays about four 330 00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:49,600 five of them around the bed and there 331 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:50,959 was a taller 332 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:54,320 big nose gray that was standing up 333 00:13:59,829 --> 00:13:57,519 um next to my husband's side of the bed 334 00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:59,839 he got out of the bed and they hit him 335 00:14:04,230 --> 00:14:01,519 over the head 336 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:04,240 with a wand or you know some sort of 337 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:05,360 device 338 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:08,880 and my husband said that he had a vision 339 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:12,480 of the earth just exploding 340 00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:15,680 wow you know just all and 341 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:19,519 it was really upsetting to him and then 342 00:14:26,069 --> 00:14:23,600 um i think uh 343 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:26,079 there was some conversation like is that 344 00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:27,600 what you want to happen 345 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:31,279 and he said of course not and 346 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:33,839 it was like well that's where you're 347 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:34,480 going to 348 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:37,680 end up if you keep going down this road 349 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:41,279 and i'm laying there thinking 350 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:43,120 i need to get up and go see what my 351 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:45,440 daughter is talking about 352 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:48,560 but i was absolutely 353 00:14:52,870 --> 00:14:51,040 paralyzed i could you know i could only 354 00:14:56,710 --> 00:14:52,880 move my eyes 355 00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:56,720 and uh and then finally i was released 356 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:00,079 and i had i picked up my 357 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:03,839 uh nine-month-old baby and 358 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:07,519 was holding her and walking down 359 00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:10,079 the the hallway with one of these grays 360 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:12,320 on each side of me and we got into the 361 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:13,360 bedroom 362 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:19,920 like you know once my eyes adjusted 363 00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:21,600 i could see that my daughter was 364 00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:24,399 floating in the middle of 365 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:27,279 the room whoa and it was just sort of 366 00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:28,320 stasis 367 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:32,240 there and she was sort of blubbering 368 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,320 you know will you please put me down put 369 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:36,480 me down put me down 370 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:39,600 and i you know i 371 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:42,800 said oh my gosh you guys can't you 372 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:44,800 understand what she's saying she said 373 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:47,519 put her down and so my daughter just 374 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:48,240 sort of 375 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:51,120 floated back down uh you know back to 376 00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:51,920 her bed 377 00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:55,040 and down onto her 378 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:58,399 bed and she um quickly 379 00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:01,120 got up and came over to me and and was 380 00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:03,040 hugging my leg 381 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:06,240 and i could see that there was 382 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:09,279 a bean in the corner but it was dark and 383 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:10,079 i couldn't see 384 00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:13,440 so i stepped closer and this is when my 385 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:15,519 nine-month-old baby 386 00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:18,800 was holding out her arms like 387 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:22,160 you know she wanted to go to this bean 388 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:25,759 and so i let her and the bean 389 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:28,160 picked her up and my daughter was 390 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:29,360 hugging that 391 00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:32,160 scrawny little neck and you know those 392 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:33,199 big 393 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:36,320 bulbous eyes and i 394 00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:39,600 heard her call a name 395 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:43,600 or say something i assume is the name 396 00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:46,320 uh you know being nine months old yeah 397 00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:48,000 she was just so happy and 398 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:51,279 giggling and having a great time and i 399 00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:52,240 thought 400 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:55,920 well yeah what do you do 401 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:58,320 with that situation something is going 402 00:17:03,350 --> 00:16:59,839 on here 403 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:03,360 uh but yeah and i really 404 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:07,199 don't remember anything else about 405 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:09,760 uh what happened that day i've always 406 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:11,120 thought that i would have 407 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:14,240 um be 408 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:17,360 you know go under hypnosis 409 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:20,400 and and try to recall 410 00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:23,600 more things but every you know i i 411 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:27,039 have a lot of friends uh that are in my 412 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:28,160 circle of 413 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:31,600 of uh dolores cannon friends 414 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:34,640 that have done past life uh regressions 415 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:35,039 and 416 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:41,600 but we'll start out talking about that 417 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:42,080 but i 418 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:45,520 never get to a place you know i always i 419 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:46,000 always go 420 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:47,919 off the rails and go talk about 421 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:50,400 something else so it must not be that 422 00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:54,480 important but i do remember the next day 423 00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:58,000 in the newspaper there was a 424 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:01,520 photograph of somebody saying you know 425 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:04,720 that they saw this ufo craft go 426 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:07,360 right over and i lived at the time i was 427 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:08,240 in 428 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:12,240 disneyland 429 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,440 oh cool so they 430 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:17,760 wrote you know so they had published 431 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:18,720 this 432 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,160 photo which was very blurry and you know 433 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:24,720 and you really couldn't tell much about 434 00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:25,760 it was it a 435 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,120 a nighttime photo or uh uh it was like 436 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:31,200 three o'clock in the afternoon oh wow 437 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:32,559 okay and uh 438 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:37,200 they said that a bundle of balloons 439 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:41,760 had escaped from a vendor in disneyland 440 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:42,640 and 441 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:45,840 that's uh why 442 00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:49,280 you know why everybody saw this balloon 443 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:52,559 about it is that that was a time 444 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:56,960 during the santa ana winds um 445 00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:59,919 and so these balloons are not being 446 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:02,000 carried away from the winds they're 447 00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,440 they're flying into the wind and the 448 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,679 santa ana winds are really 449 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:09,840 you know they're phenomenal that happens 450 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:10,720 every year 451 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:14,240 in southern california where these 452 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:18,080 hot wind will come up off of the 453 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:21,200 the desert and go toward the ocean 454 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,480 and uh so 455 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:27,840 these are not going these balloons 456 00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:30,799 exactly they were not going to the west 457 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:32,160 they were actually going 458 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,799 north east oh okay now i get the 459 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:36,480 significance yeah they were going like 460 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:37,280 into the wind 461 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:41,360 you have 462 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:44,400 i'm reading this article you know it's 463 00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:46,320 like calm down people you didn't see a 464 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:49,600 ufo you actually just saw balloons 465 00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:51,760 and i'm thinking to myself that's the 466 00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:52,799 first time 467 00:20:00,549 --> 00:19:57,440 i've ever seen balloons go into the wind 468 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:00,559 like spitting in the wind yeah so 469 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:03,280 so the next morning you wake up do you 470 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:04,159 do you remember 471 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:06,720 recalling hey last night was really 472 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,440 strange 473 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:10,320 uh do you have vivid memories like from 474 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,200 the night before 475 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:13,039 as you're reading this you know it was 476 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:14,240 it was really too 477 00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:18,880 long ago i can't really remember uh 478 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:22,159 because you know my daughter is now 479 00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:25,919 27. so that was that was a long time ago 480 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,480 yeah 481 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,799 so it was a really really long time ago 482 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:30,480 but i do 483 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:34,880 so vividly recall um 484 00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:37,919 the inability to not 485 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:40,799 move and when my daughter sat up i 486 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:41,440 remember 487 00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:45,520 telling her uh oh no we have to lay down 488 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:46,000 now 489 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:53,840 yeah but i still couldn't 490 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:56,080 you know i i couldn't move if i wanted 491 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:57,120 to so 492 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:00,960 yeah you know it it was it was a 493 00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:04,000 pretty uh pretty phenomenal but i was 494 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:05,120 really glad 495 00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:08,480 that i had my baby in my bed with me 496 00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:09,919 that night that's for sure 497 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:12,159 oh yeah you know you said you said 498 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,520 something pretty interesting 499 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,760 and it kind of caught my attention on 500 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:17,280 how you were saying that 501 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:18,720 when you walked into your daughter's 502 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:20,720 room how she was kind of just floating 503 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:21,520 there 504 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:25,200 and you had said to the et's 505 00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:27,760 can't you hear her she said put her down 506 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:29,679 and then she slowly starts to 507 00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:33,520 you know come down it the more and more 508 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:36,320 stories that i hear you know people are 509 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,799 either 510 00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:39,039 completely terrified and they don't say 511 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:39,919 anything 512 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,720 uh or they don't remember but there are 513 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,080 these few occasions 514 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:47,360 where people talk or interact with these 515 00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,880 with the et's and it seems like they pay 516 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:52,480 attention to what you're saying 517 00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:55,600 you know violence is consent that's what 518 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:58,720 i was told 519 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:01,520 so if you don't say anything you're too 520 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,320 afraid 521 00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:03,919 or you don't know what to say because a 522 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,159 lot of peak time 523 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:08,159 you know if you're seeing something in 524 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:09,360 front of you 525 00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:12,480 that you've never saw before and 526 00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,240 it usually people go into 527 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:18,720 fight or flight yeah they're either 528 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:19,679 going to 529 00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:23,039 to um fight it you know i'm not really 530 00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,159 seeing this 531 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:28,159 yeah in my my uh brain is 532 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,720 my eyes are lying to me i'm just it's 533 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,000 just a dream 534 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:34,720 it's something else it's not you know 535 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:35,120 the 536 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:43,600 say anything at all 537 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:47,440 but um so as i understand it 538 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:50,720 silence is consent and you have to 539 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:54,080 learn not to be afraid you have to face 540 00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:55,440 your fears 541 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:58,159 if you want if you want to know about 542 00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,200 this 543 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:02,240 um and you know 544 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:05,840 now the creepy experiments have all but 545 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,120 ended and uh you're putting 546 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,520 the pieces together you know there's 547 00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:12,960 been the projects like 548 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,159 free that ray hernandez has worked on 549 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,640 yeah that has gathered up all of these 550 00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,240 different stories 551 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,880 and at the time when he asked me you 552 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:24,720 know he gives me this packet 553 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:27,919 of like 30 pages of questions and i went 554 00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:30,720 oh yeah right like i'm going to fill 555 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:31,120 that 556 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:36,080 just write my own 557 00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:39,760 book yeah exactly yeah 558 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:42,960 so uh but you know what 559 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:46,799 what they have done is tried to connect 560 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,080 a lot of the dots and i you know 561 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:53,200 like uh earlier this week we talked 562 00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:54,000 about 563 00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:57,120 the giants and the nephilim 564 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,279 and uh one of the things that 565 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:04,400 was alarming to me 566 00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:08,320 was of when i was talking 567 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,110 rosemary ellen guyley and i got to be 568 00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:17,120 really good friends of her before 569 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:20,640 she passed away and 570 00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:25,360 she was telling me about you know 571 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:34,549 nephilim were the giants that 572 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:37,760 came to earth 573 00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:41,120 like you know who knows yeah and 574 00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:44,240 for those millions of years ago and for 575 00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,919 those that are listening uh the reason 576 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:47,039 that we're we're talking about this and 577 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,840 this is uh 578 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,440 uh this is what i definitely want to 579 00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,120 talk about we brought it up uh 580 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:53,120 our our uh community brought it up in 581 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,480 our facebook group 582 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,320 and there were some some dudes that were 583 00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:58,240 really curious about these giant skulls 584 00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:59,440 that are found 585 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:02,320 and yeah and the nephilim what's the 586 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,200 connection 587 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,400 and why are people still finding these 588 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,559 giant skulls and giant skeletons and 589 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:09,760 stuff i think 590 00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:13,520 i think a lot of people in the uh 591 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,080 archaeology department would would agree 592 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:18,000 that they're all hoaxes but i feel like 593 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,840 there's got to be some kind of truth to 594 00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:21,360 it so i'm curious to 595 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:24,080 sorry to interject there yeah if they're 596 00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:24,799 hoaxes 597 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,480 then you know we're why are these 598 00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,720 why do we have these giant footprints 599 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:32,480 and these you know 600 00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:35,679 if you go to nevada's state museum 601 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:39,520 you can see a pair of uh sandals 602 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:43,360 from a giant that would be like a men's 603 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,159 size 604 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,520 22 whoa this would be given 605 00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:49,840 be worn by somebody that was eight to 606 00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:57,029 we have heard the stories coming down 607 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:00,320 um particularly in 608 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:03,760 native american uh floor 609 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,960 folklore around here and uh 610 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,880 you know when you you really start 611 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:10,720 looking into it even in 612 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:13,760 the bible in genesis they said 613 00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:16,880 that you know the giants came down 614 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:19,840 screwed around with the women and this 615 00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:20,400 was 616 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:24,799 uh you know created this race of giants 617 00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:28,720 and uh they called them the men of um 618 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:32,000 the sons of god and the men of renown 619 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:35,760 yeah right um and uh 620 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,360 when these children of the giants were 621 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:40,559 born 622 00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:44,240 uh the gods came down and said okay 623 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:48,000 uh they can't live any longer than 120 624 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:48,960 years 625 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,440 so any any son of god anybody walking 626 00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:56,320 around and this is in in the bible so 627 00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:57,200 you know 628 00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:00,720 archaeologists take it up with uh 629 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,440 with some of the oldest writings yeah 630 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:04,559 that we have 631 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,000 yeah and uh you know even 632 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:11,039 um there's 633 00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:14,480 uh gosh 634 00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:18,000 in the book of of the dead uh i mean the 635 00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,360 dead sea scrolls 636 00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,679 the dead sea squirrels there's a book 637 00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:23,840 called the book of giants 638 00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:27,120 in the disney scrolls and they talk 639 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:27,679 about 640 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:31,679 e ea and anu and ml 641 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:35,440 and uh you know all of those guys 642 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:38,720 and basically what they said in the book 643 00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:40,000 of the giants 644 00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,600 that things in the night go bump 645 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,720 and you can bump back but 646 00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:49,760 if you look into the abyss the abyss is 647 00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:50,640 going to look 648 00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:54,320 back at you yeah that's why i don't mess 649 00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,640 with ouija boards 650 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,320 so there's a lot of people that just 651 00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,919 like oh yeah no no no no 652 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:02,000 i'm not going to go there because you 653 00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:03,919 know in the bible it says 654 00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:06,960 that these were these 200 655 00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:10,000 angels the fallen angels that came down 656 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,559 and and not only did they screw around 657 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:14,559 with men but they screw around with 658 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,000 animals too right right and uh 659 00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,600 you know they went after the sheeps and 660 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:22,399 the goats and and they created 661 00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,000 much bigger yeah boats and 662 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,840 all of them sounds like a bunch of horny 663 00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,960 aliens i mean because they even talk 664 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,640 about like in the book of enoch and the 665 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,559 the fallen angels coming down here 666 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,200 and the nephilim and and you know the 667 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,279 giants and all that stuff 668 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:41,200 so yeah i mean there's there's a lot to 669 00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,799 it you know i'm like trying to think 670 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:43,679 about like 671 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:46,799 you know it it seems like if you go to a 672 00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:47,440 lot of 673 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:52,000 the um like the mesopotamian mythology 674 00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:56,799 they have the owens it's o-a-n-n-e-s 675 00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,679 for anybody that wants to look it up and 676 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,080 these were the amphibian beings 677 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:05,120 that taught men wisdom they taught them 678 00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,080 how to write 679 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,720 they taught them how you know how to 680 00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:10,799 make flesh toilets they called them 681 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:13,919 science they taught him uh 682 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:17,760 you know everything amphibians 683 00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:21,520 this created the the land of samaria 684 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:24,799 and uh this being the 685 00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:28,320 owns was of this amphibian 686 00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:31,919 and who came out of the persian gulf in 687 00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,120 near babylonia and he was in the form of 688 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,039 a fish but he had the 689 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:40,399 head of a man and under his fish head 690 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,000 he had a uh you know this 691 00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,039 weird man space um but 692 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,600 and under the fish tail he had the legs 693 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:51,520 and the feet of the men 694 00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,720 and he would uh you know go around 695 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,720 and he kept law and order for the 696 00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,000 longest time 697 00:30:01,269 --> 00:30:00,559 and then he left now if you look at the 698 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:01,279 dogon 699 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,200 tribe over in africa in africa yep 700 00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:08,240 they say that a ufo landed 701 00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,480 and it poured out all of this water into 702 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:14,720 the sacred lake that's there 703 00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:18,080 and then um they were 704 00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:21,200 like merman and they jumped out 705 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,159 and they taught the dogon everything 706 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:26,399 that they needed to know 707 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,440 and taught them how to 708 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,440 the people were starving and they taught 709 00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,549 plant their fields and they taught them 710 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,960 writing and they taught them the magical 711 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,240 arts 712 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:43,440 so even to this day you can there are 713 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:44,240 dogan 714 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:47,840 that are initiated into the society 715 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,720 and taught the same things the dogon 716 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:51,520 knew 717 00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:54,960 that sirius had uh 718 00:31:02,470 --> 00:30:59,120 two star systems yeah long before it was 719 00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:02,480 discovered yeah absolutely 720 00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,519 you know what was in 1937 that they 721 00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:07,360 finally came 722 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:10,559 so but what happened to all of these 723 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:13,840 uh giants is that 724 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,960 uh was the flood basically wiped out 725 00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:19,760 you know noah's time of noah wiped out 726 00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:20,399 everybody 727 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:23,519 they couldn't swim and uh 728 00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:26,640 yeah i don't think they i don't know but 729 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:30,840 uh you know they they uh 730 00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:33,760 disappeared and then 731 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:38,000 after the flood sometime they came back 732 00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:41,279 and uh we know this 733 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:45,519 um through the indian 734 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:48,720 native american indian and also 735 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:51,760 the indian indians 736 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:54,960 who um talk about the 737 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,000 vamana of you know these pyramid 738 00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:01,440 shapes ufos that are that's built 739 00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:05,200 i m a n a yeah 740 00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:08,880 look it up um i actually painted one 741 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:12,320 uh i saw one here in sedona uh 742 00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,760 yeah let's talk about your brand your 743 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:15,679 paintings yeah and 744 00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:18,960 uh and so i sent you a 745 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:22,960 a painting of of one and uh 746 00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,240 so what is happening 747 00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,159 what happened to everybody you know 748 00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:30,480 there's all these native american tribes 749 00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:30,799 that 750 00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:33,279 just disappeared right off of the face 751 00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,000 of the earth 752 00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:37,039 yeah and what we think 753 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:40,399 happened is that they just changed their 754 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:41,760 frequency 755 00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:44,080 and they're still there we just can't 756 00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:45,519 see them 757 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:48,559 very interesting and you know the 758 00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:53,760 um chemtrails 759 00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,720 all of this uh whatever they're putting 760 00:33:01,990 --> 00:32:58,880 into the chemtrails 761 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,000 is changing the way we're seeing 762 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:05,279 things things are you you know when 763 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:08,240 when uh there'll be a heavily 764 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:09,519 chemtrailed 765 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:12,720 day and then at night time 766 00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:17,279 the sunset is just spectacular you know 767 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,159 it's really bright and it's orange and 768 00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:21,840 it's red 769 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:24,559 and these are sunsets like we've never 770 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:24,960 seen 771 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:28,000 before and a lot of this is because 772 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:31,600 um you know it's it's changing the way 773 00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:35,440 that the light is reflecting and so 774 00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,240 we're seeing more and this i believe 775 00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:39,600 this is why 776 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:43,039 we're uh seeing more orbs 777 00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:46,960 and and more um 778 00:33:53,789 --> 00:33:50,159 ufos and all of that 779 00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:53,799 because you know it seems like 780 00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:57,600 1997 all of a sudden there's chemtrails 781 00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,159 and now 782 00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,399 all of a sudden you've got this huge 783 00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,320 massive amount of people 784 00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:05,039 that are reporting seeing ufos yeah so 785 00:34:09,669 --> 00:34:06,880 maybe the the amount of light that's 786 00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,679 able to reach past our atmosphere is 787 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:10,879 kind of 788 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,760 limited due to to the the particles that 789 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:15,520 are floating around in our atmosphere 790 00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:15,760 and 791 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:18,639 preventing the light you know the 792 00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,200 photons from reaching our eyes and 793 00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,119 you know well actually it's making us 794 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:24,879 see a more wider range 795 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:28,480 okay because it's it's putting 796 00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:31,599 these uh metal particles 797 00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:36,560 into the air reflecting it yeah 798 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:40,079 and uh so and our eyes are 799 00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,520 are getting used to to this and on the 800 00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,040 same token 801 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:47,599 we're getting things uh that are 802 00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:48,879 destroying a 803 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:52,960 eyesight like looking at a computer 804 00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:55,599 yeah you know yeah you know i was always 805 00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,720 thinking about like 806 00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:58,079 what did people do back in the day with 807 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:00,839 no sunglasses like it's so dang bright 808 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:08,950 there's more macular degeneration now 809 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:09,520 than there's 810 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:13,680 ever been in the history of of humanity 811 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:16,800 and i believe it's like 812 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:19,280 we're walking outside and and there's 813 00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:22,480 all this extra light that we're seeing 814 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,599 and it's in a spectrum that we've never 815 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:26,720 seen before 816 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,160 and so it we're literally 817 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,880 burning our eyes out you know i kind of 818 00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,599 i kind of like 819 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,079 uh think about it analogous to a rainbow 820 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,400 where a rainbow you're seeing the water 821 00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,400 molecules and and the atmosphere 822 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,000 reflecting off of the 823 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,680 curvature of the earth from the sunlight 824 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:45,440 there's you can only see a rainbow after 825 00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,839 it's 826 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,520 rained or if you're looking through like 827 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,880 a water hose if you spray it at a 828 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:49,680 certain angle 829 00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:51,760 i'm thinking about that that mindset 830 00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:53,119 with with 831 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:55,839 connecting that to why we're able to see 832 00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:56,560 did you see 833 00:36:02,950 --> 00:35:59,839 that red rainbow 834 00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:02,960 that was it was in the paper i mean uh 835 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,119 all over the internet last week oh i 836 00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:06,720 didn't see that i didn't see that no 837 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:10,240 yeah look at the red rainbow red 838 00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,270 yeah yeah so um 839 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:23,280 i just wanted to say a couple of things 840 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:26,320 about the giants and getting back to 841 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:26,800 that 842 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,440 yes please um because uh 843 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:34,079 you know the giants are not going to be 844 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,119 our saviors 845 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:37,680 let's let's get that straight right now 846 00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:38,800 but 847 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:42,079 there are people that are seeing 848 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:46,480 giants now they're seeing actually 849 00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:50,240 living giants and we're finding giants 850 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,079 now back back in the day before 851 00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,720 they started uh you know putting the 852 00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,599 kibosh on 853 00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:59,520 anything that they didn't want you to 854 00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:00,800 know 855 00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:04,560 uh especially in the 1930s when 856 00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,599 people went out to the desert and you 857 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,680 know down into mexico and 858 00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:12,240 and went into these caves and they're 859 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,119 doing 860 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:16,160 mining um there 861 00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:19,280 they started finding all of these things 862 00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:23,040 and uh they're 863 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,920 you know well let's just go back to 864 00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:29,920 1523 when friar 865 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:34,400 duran went into uh mexico 866 00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:38,160 and he came across um 867 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:41,920 this uh tribe of giants they're all like 868 00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:44,480 10 to 14 feet tall 869 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,630 gosh i can't think of the name of it 870 00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,480 it's like uh 871 00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:55,280 uh quinta mian or something like that 872 00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:56,400 but they said 873 00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:00,160 that these giants built um the pyramids 874 00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:11,109 these guys were 875 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:14,720 were not very nice 876 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:18,480 and you know uh 877 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:21,760 they were there was uh a lot of 878 00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,800 native americans that really hated the 879 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:26,079 giants 880 00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:33,280 they're um here in um 881 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:37,599 arizona um 882 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,069 a tribe i'm trying to i'm 883 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:46,960 racking my brain remember the names of 884 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:47,680 them 885 00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:51,200 um i'm just thinking about one tribe 886 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,320 was found by coronado here in in 887 00:39:00,630 --> 00:39:00,079 kokoka and these guys were eight to ten 888 00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:00,640 feet 889 00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:04,160 tall they were very strong and 890 00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:07,599 uh if they got mad at you then they 891 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:08,320 would 892 00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:13,760 torture them 893 00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,400 by you know tied them to the stake and 894 00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:18,079 then they would run up with these really 895 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:19,520 sharp knives and 896 00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:23,200 carve off a pound of flesh and then go 897 00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:28,079 go barbecue it and eat it in front of 898 00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:31,599 the person on the stake oh man damn like 899 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:35,119 some charcuterie really and 900 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,160 then you know even um 901 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:41,280 there were talk of of 902 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:45,359 giants that lived in uh the grand canyon 903 00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:49,040 and uh they this one cave in the grand 904 00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:49,680 canyon 905 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:53,839 called uh kincaid's cave it was so full 906 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:57,280 of giant mummies and 907 00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:00,720 uh artifacts uh 908 00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:04,000 that woodrow wilson when went over to 909 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:05,839 see it in 1919. 910 00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,520 wow so yeah because he wanted to check 911 00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:10,480 it out and then once 912 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,280 once he checked it out he had the 913 00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:13,839 smithsonian 914 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,240 just shut it down yeah so what are your 915 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,000 thoughts who they found 916 00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:20,640 him so much yeah so what are your 917 00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,520 thoughts on why 918 00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,359 why this subject has been pushed and 919 00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:25,119 suppressed so much why is it not 920 00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:26,800 mainstream do you have any ideas i'm 921 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,599 like 922 00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:30,720 why why is having an uh 923 00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:34,240 a giant relative so detrimental to 924 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,920 i guess our psyche yeah you know i i 925 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:39,680 asked uh 926 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:43,200 and rosemary and ellen guiley um 927 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,069 the same question and 928 00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,960 and uh you know and was tying it into 929 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,160 the et's 930 00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,400 and even some of the people that 931 00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:58,720 responded to the free 932 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:05,589 uh questionnaire said the same thing 933 00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,040 but there is 934 00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:12,240 in one book of 935 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,440 enoch um and 936 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:18,319 and we know that enoch you know he 937 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,200 supposedly 938 00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:21,760 never died he just ascended to heaven he 939 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:24,640 was 365 years old 940 00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,760 and he was told by god you know take 941 00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:29,440 down all the information you write 942 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,119 write lots of books and books 943 00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,760 and take it back down to earth so that 944 00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,200 everybody knew 945 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:40,560 and one of the things that he said was 946 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:43,680 um you know the nephilim 947 00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:47,440 were they weren't really 948 00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:50,960 very nice um right and it sounded like a 949 00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:53,119 grumpy thing 950 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:56,720 yeah they and their children 951 00:42:03,910 --> 00:41:59,760 uh with the humans 952 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:03,920 were called the raphem 953 00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:07,200 and if you look at the word 954 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:11,119 rafa it means dead 955 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:14,880 and so 956 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:18,640 they believed um back back in the time 957 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:20,720 of mesopotamia 958 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:24,400 that demons were the disembodied 959 00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:27,520 spirits of giants 960 00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:30,640 and you know and we do know that evil is 961 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,119 real 962 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:34,560 is you know 963 00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:37,680 a demon could um 964 00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,880 take over a body right you know 965 00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,599 and uh you know the night of the living 966 00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:44,880 dead 967 00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:48,960 uh but they can but the fallen angels 968 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,119 could also be incarnated uh 969 00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:56,480 as a demonic person 970 00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:59,680 um you know somebody like hitler you 971 00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:00,079 know 972 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:03,760 yeah or somebody that has got a really 973 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:04,640 bad 974 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:10,160 conscience whatsoever bill gates comes 975 00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:20,309 one of the reasons that there were 976 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:23,680 so many people from the 977 00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:26,800 middle east from uh you know 978 00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:30,960 syria and uh certain parts of iraq and 979 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:32,560 iran 980 00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:36,480 that were against abortion 981 00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,000 is because these you know the dead 982 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:42,720 babies had to go someplace and they 983 00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:43,280 would be 984 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:46,400 harvested by 985 00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:50,720 these nephilim that are still here 986 00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,000 and uh and they would take that life 987 00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:57,040 force now we're getting into now we're 988 00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,839 getting into some 989 00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,839 illuminati stuff that joe and i were 990 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:01,119 actually talking about 991 00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:04,480 and about and that was part of it now 992 00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:08,560 in the et's came by and 993 00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,119 they started this hybrid program 994 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:16,560 and to prevent the 995 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:19,760 uh nephilim and 996 00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:23,359 and the raphaem from getting 997 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,800 this life force they created the hybrid 998 00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:28,000 program 999 00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,359 oh they are here harvesting 1000 00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:36,480 the deceased babies before 1001 00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:40,880 they get into the bad hands whoa 1002 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:43,760 okay so so we're thinking like uh 1003 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:44,160 there's 1004 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:49,359 humans that are were being harvested for 1005 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,560 you know vampiric uh in tendencies 1006 00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:55,440 being sacrificed to these these entities 1007 00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:56,079 or 1008 00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:59,440 giants but the et's come down and say 1009 00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,000 hey 1010 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,400 that that's some evil [\h__\h] going on 1011 00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,040 let's create a hybrid species 1012 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,440 and prevent you guys from feeding off of 1013 00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:08,880 the life force of 1014 00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:12,319 of humans is that that's that is 1015 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,079 correct and when they they saw 1016 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:18,880 exactly where we were going you know 1017 00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:19,520 we're 1018 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:22,400 headed straight towards armageddon at 1019 00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:23,680 the moment 1020 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,640 and uh they there's a lot of people 1021 00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:31,359 that have et experiences that really 1022 00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,160 believe 1023 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,880 that we're going to blow ourselves up 1024 00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:36,000 and 1025 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,839 that the et's will then come down 1026 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:42,160 re-terraform the earth they'll take the 1027 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:43,200 hybrids 1028 00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:46,800 that cannot be uh held 1029 00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,079 on you know for andrenochrome or 1030 00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:53,119 you know any of those tonic rituals 1031 00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:56,319 because they don't have it in them 1032 00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,319 wow in hybrid hybrided out 1033 00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:03,280 but we're already seeing these hybrids 1034 00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:04,240 um 1035 00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:07,440 come into tubing and 1036 00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:11,359 uh you know like um 1037 00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,760 was that beautiful woman that we met at 1038 00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:15,200 ufo con 1039 00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:18,319 um that talked about it 1040 00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:21,440 uh geraldine oh yeah ocasio 1041 00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:26,240 yeah yeah orozco yeah 1042 00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,160 clearly she is a hybrid 1043 00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:33,359 person yeah and she is a teacher 1044 00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:37,599 she is telling people you know how 1045 00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,200 you know what how things are going 1046 00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,400 and the thing about it is you know 1047 00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,119 i've i have studied with dolores cannon 1048 00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:49,200 for nearly 20 years 1049 00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:53,040 and i did a lot of past life regressions 1050 00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:56,800 and i specialized with ep 1051 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,079 experiences and a lot of these people 1052 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,880 that are coming in are coming in as 1053 00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:04,640 volunteers 1054 00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:07,920 and they're fake i'll do it i'll do it 1055 00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,560 i'll do whatever it takes 1056 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:13,599 to uh you know to bring in the higher 1057 00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:16,960 consciousness of man right so they 1058 00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,280 don't blow themselves up so they you 1059 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:21,599 know they don't 1060 00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:25,280 at this point i think just about 1061 00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,670 there's just something really really 1062 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,760 wonderful about them which is the reason 1063 00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:37,520 why i think people like 1064 00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:40,640 bill gates are giving them um 1065 00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:43,760 vaccinations at birth that is you know 1066 00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:47,280 shutting that part down oh my gosh 1067 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:50,960 you know it's yeah so 1068 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,680 and it's the law we can't you know you 1069 00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:55,680 unless you have a home birth 1070 00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:58,559 it's really really hard not to get a 1071 00:48:02,710 --> 00:47:59,440 vitamin k 1072 00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:02,720 that's not vitamins and uh you know 1073 00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:05,359 i i don't know what you did joe when 1074 00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:06,000 your baby 1075 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:09,200 was born but uh ours are 1076 00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:12,400 right ours are kind of they're 1077 00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,680 they're very spaced out and 1078 00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:18,160 she doesn't get all of them so we're 1079 00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,280 very 1080 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:21,839 we're kind of particular on on what 1081 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,480 we're 1082 00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,160 yeah you know everybody needs to pay 1083 00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:26,400 attention to that so god bless you 1084 00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:29,440 and you know however you i just said no 1085 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:32,960 absolutely not but that was 27 years ago 1086 00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:34,960 and things are a lot harder now 1087 00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,960 it is it is there's a lot of pressure to 1088 00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:41,200 vaccinate like everything all that wants 1089 00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,160 and we 1090 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:44,079 straight up said no like you're not 1091 00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:46,000 gonna put all of that in our tiny little 1092 00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:46,800 baby 1093 00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:49,520 all at once we can space it out and 1094 00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,319 we're going to 1095 00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,720 pick you know what we want and what we 1096 00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:54,319 don't want but you can definitely feel 1097 00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,520 the pushback from them 1098 00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:57,119 you know that's you know that's the only 1099 00:49:03,270 --> 00:48:58,640 thing that you can do 1100 00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:03,280 and um that's probably 1101 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:05,839 you know probably will save her life one 1102 00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:06,400 day 1103 00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:09,440 yeah i 1104 00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:12,640 i had i had a lot of conversations 1105 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,720 with one of my best friends we were 1106 00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:16,480 pregnant together 1107 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,839 and uh you know my kids never had a 1108 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,280 vaccination 1109 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,760 they never were sick in school they 1110 00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,480 never had 1111 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:27,119 ear problems matter of fact my youngest 1112 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:28,000 daughter who 1113 00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,079 like i said 20 something now and she 1114 00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:35,119 had her first dose of antibiotics when 1115 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:38,480 she was 22 and that was for a dental 1116 00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:42,800 uh surgery yeah so you know 1117 00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:45,920 i didn't i didn't have that kind of 1118 00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,040 problem 1119 00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,760 and yeah they they got chicken pox and 1120 00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:51,599 they got the measles 1121 00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:55,680 and now they're immune you know yeah the 1122 00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:59,119 the normal stuff and and normal 1123 00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:01,599 childhood disease and which was very 1124 00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:02,559 mild 1125 00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:07,040 and um and now they're fine 1126 00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,640 and you compare that to my friend 1127 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,640 who has a daughter the same age she's 1128 00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:15,040 already had a double mastectomy 1129 00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,640 has you know has hearing problems 1130 00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,119 had to wear glasses when she was in 1131 00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:23,680 second grade 1132 00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:26,079 she got her periods really early you 1133 00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:27,520 know all this 1134 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:30,720 weird stuff yeah and uh you know 1135 00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:34,160 basically uh you know 1136 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:36,800 we're lived in the same area drank the 1137 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:37,760 same water 1138 00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:41,680 went to the same schools and 1139 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:45,520 you know both basically had 1140 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:48,960 good genetics going into it but 1141 00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,079 she was a advocate about 1142 00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,119 getting vaccinations and that 1143 00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:58,400 baby uh that 1144 00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,280 she had when that child was four years 1145 00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,680 old spent more time in the hospital than 1146 00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:05,359 she did at home 1147 00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:11,829 so what do you do you just you just do 1148 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:14,079 your homework and you try to make the 1149 00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,440 right decisions 1150 00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,720 and all of that and god bless 1151 00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,480 everybody we all know that they're 1152 00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:22,960 waiting for the covid vaccination 1153 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:26,640 before um they let us 1154 00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:30,640 leave our houses oh i know 1155 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,839 yeah that's really hanky there's 1156 00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:35,520 what they don't tell you is that right 1157 00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:39,200 now they've got 2500 people 1158 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:47,349 testing that volunteered seven have died 1159 00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,760 do you see that in the mainstream media 1160 00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:51,440 nope not at all 1161 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,119 97 of them of the women are now sterile 1162 00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,359 do you see that on the main street oh no 1163 00:52:03,270 --> 00:51:59,119 are you serious 1164 00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,280 oh so you're gonna take that vaccine 1165 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:06,240 no i'm not so have these have these 1166 00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:07,520 studies come out about 1167 00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:10,160 about these the the percentage of women 1168 00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:11,520 that are sterile now you know 1169 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:13,839 i got the information because i used to 1170 00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,480 work for a pharmaceutical company 1171 00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:18,880 i'm still it was a family-owned 1172 00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,960 pharmaceutical company there 1173 00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,800 all of you know there's a lot of 1174 00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,400 surgeons and 1175 00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,960 doctors that i used to work with so i 1176 00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:28,240 still have people 1177 00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:31,359 that give me information right work in 1178 00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,160 the research and development department 1179 00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,319 and you know so i still know the 1180 00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,680 director of the 1181 00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,599 research and development department of 1182 00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:42,240 this large pharmaceutical company 1183 00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:45,920 that coincidentally corey goode said 1184 00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:47,920 that he worked for but 1185 00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,640 he did not he's a liar he never was 1186 00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:56,630 and uh and and so i get some 1187 00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:01,680 of the information from you know uh 1188 00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:04,480 from from my friend yeah we can and i 1189 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:04,880 really 1190 00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:08,160 can't say yeah you know i just have to 1191 00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:09,119 wait 1192 00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:11,280 uh i get this information and then i 1193 00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:12,640 just have to wait 1194 00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:16,400 yeah it's an inside source 1195 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:20,000 hit the news but uh 1196 00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,520 the other thing that i was going to tell 1197 00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:23,119 you about giants is 1198 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:26,079 that how they disappeared and they 1199 00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:27,760 vibrated into 1200 00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,960 this other realm of existence but 1201 00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:33,119 we're still seeing them and they're 1202 00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:34,319 seeing them 1203 00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:37,839 all over the world and uh 1204 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:40,240 like the native americans around here 1205 00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,520 some of them call 1206 00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,760 you know they've got like 200 different 1207 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,359 names for bigfoot 1208 00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:48,480 um they call a big elder or 1209 00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:51,599 big brother or the night people or the 1210 00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:53,920 stone coats 1211 00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:57,760 name 1212 00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:01,280 woman or big owl these are all 1213 00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:04,480 you know names for them and they're 1214 00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:08,400 always found uh on 1215 00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:12,079 ley lines and i don't know what a ley 1216 00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:12,960 line is it's 1217 00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:16,559 ley um line and 1218 00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:19,760 uh the earth has natural history it has 1219 00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:23,040 a natural 1220 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:26,800 system of energy and it 1221 00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,760 it's like these meridians between these 1222 00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:30,880 points 1223 00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:34,160 create this line like the rose line like 1224 00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,319 you know right right yeah yeah and uh 1225 00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:41,440 here in sedona we've i have found 1226 00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,880 so far about 30 ley lines 1227 00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,040 some are a lot stronger and they're all 1228 00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,280 around the vortices here oh wow 1229 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:51,359 and uh and it has something to do with 1230 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,480 the big points 1231 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,640 that cut that comes together is reason 1232 00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:56,960 why bradshaw ranch has such a 1233 00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:01,200 a lot of activity there is that's where 1234 00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:05,359 about five ley lines come together 1235 00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:08,480 and uh right around that point 1236 00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,000 so there there's the big girl there 1237 00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,880 there's uh and there's spent a lot of 1238 00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:16,480 sightings and you asked me 1239 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:19,920 earlier about an update about bradshaw 1240 00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,400 riv 1241 00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,280 yes i the last time i was out there i 1242 00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,599 have to say was about a year ago 1243 00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:27,920 i've been meaning to get out there but 1244 00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:30,319 you know i'm 1245 00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:35,599 pretty lazy 1246 00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:38,559 but i did send you a painting of the one 1247 00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:39,599 um 1248 00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:43,839 it had this really bright 1249 00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,040 uh light it was 1250 00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,079 late in the day but it had this 1251 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,480 really really bright light that made 1252 00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:54,160 everything look 1253 00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:58,000 kind of yellow and uh so 1254 00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:01,760 um i did a painting of it because of 1255 00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:04,799 course every time i go to take a photo 1256 00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:08,240 uh something happens either the camera 1257 00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:09,359 doesn't work 1258 00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:11,920 it's one time i picked up my my camera 1259 00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:13,280 to take a photo 1260 00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:16,079 and the batteries fell completely out of 1261 00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:17,200 the camera 1262 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,960 i mean you know how does that happen 1263 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:20,640 yeah 1264 00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:24,720 or the batteries just absolutely drain 1265 00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:28,160 you know as soon as the ufo comes over 1266 00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:31,520 uh you don't you know have any battery 1267 00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,319 in your 1268 00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:34,640 your uh cell phone and you don't have 1269 00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:35,520 any battery 1270 00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:38,960 in your camera so you might as well just 1271 00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,799 forget it and that's reason i have to 1272 00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:41,680 start 1273 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:44,480 just coming back and and kind of 1274 00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:46,240 sketching things out 1275 00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:49,520 and uh and i started doing these 1276 00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:52,960 watercolor paintings of them um 1277 00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:56,000 when i i they're working on a book so 1278 00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:57,200 these are actually 1279 00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,960 the ones i'm going to be using for my 1280 00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:00,720 yeah they're beautiful they're awesome 1281 00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:04,799 so i sent you one that i was 1282 00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,599 at it was about a year ago i was at 1283 00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,280 bradshaw ranch 1284 00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:12,319 with a friend of mine and 1285 00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,680 uh we stayed out there for two three 1286 00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:18,480 hours we took some photos nothing really 1287 00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:19,200 happened 1288 00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,319 you know we were just sort of walking 1289 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:24,400 around the perimeter and 1290 00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:28,559 uh the rancho ranch has been taken over 1291 00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:32,000 by um northern arizona university 1292 00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:35,440 and right right they made it a a garden 1293 00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:38,559 out there and uh so 1294 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:41,839 you can't really get onto the property 1295 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:44,720 but you can walk around the perimeter 1296 00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,680 and uh and that works because you just 1297 00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:49,839 invite the unseen others over 1298 00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:53,119 yeah yeah come on over let me take your 1299 00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:54,240 photo yeah 1300 00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:57,520 and uh but 1301 00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:01,119 uh we were leaving and we were actually 1302 00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:04,880 in the car and and i was with my friend 1303 00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,160 and she has a um 1304 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:11,440 a rav and it's a newer car 1305 00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,240 maybe two three years old and um 1306 00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:18,799 uh it wasn't running right you know it 1307 00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:19,440 was like 1308 00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:27,109 maybe somebody put a banana up the tail 1309 00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,760 fighter 1310 00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:28,960 [Music] 1311 00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,160 i don't know but it really wasn't it 1312 00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,880 it wasn't running right and so she 1313 00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:36,559 pulled over because 1314 00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:39,680 she wanted to you know just double check 1315 00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,480 and 1316 00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:42,720 like you know like we could fix a car 1317 00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:43,599 right 1318 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,799 absolutely with some sticks and stones 1319 00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:48,640 out there at the ranch 1320 00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:51,760 so uh she gets out 1321 00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:55,359 and and she starts to go open 1322 00:59:02,630 --> 00:58:58,720 up the the front bonnet 1323 00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:02,640 and look in there and look in the engine 1324 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:05,839 and as she is 1325 00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:10,640 trying to unlatch the uh the hood 1326 00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,520 she says oh my god jocelyn you gotta get 1327 00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:16,000 out here right now right now right now 1328 00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:19,839 and i get out and we see 1329 00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:23,040 this slow moving craft coming 1330 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:25,040 right toward us and that's the one in 1331 00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:26,400 the painting 1332 00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:30,640 it's got this really really bright light 1333 00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:34,880 underneath it and my heart is pounding 1334 00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:37,760 and uh you know it's like why did we 1335 00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:41,440 bother doing that ce5 1336 00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:44,480 yeah i don't have time for this and i 1337 00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:45,200 need to go 1338 00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:49,440 home and so 1339 00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:52,880 it it just went kind of 1340 00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:55,680 kind of skirted the area where we were 1341 01:00:04,150 --> 00:59:56,640 and 1342 01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:04,160 we couldn't see it anymore uh 1343 01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:07,839 the the car started right up 1344 01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:11,440 now it's six miles out 1345 01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:14,960 to bradshaw ranch from 1346 01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:18,960 west sedona you know so and it's mostly 1347 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:22,079 dirt road and uh 1348 01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:25,280 so uh we're on this dirt road and we're 1349 01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,480 talking about it 1350 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,359 you know and i'm trying to sketch it and 1351 01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:31,040 we're both very excited 1352 01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:34,559 we're chattering we're chattering and uh 1353 01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:37,680 i look up i see this tree 1354 01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,720 and i realize that i have already seen 1355 01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:42,559 that tree 1356 01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:45,680 oh or it's uh or a deja vu 1357 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:48,640 or something yeah and we kind of went up 1358 01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:49,920 over this rise 1359 01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,119 came down there was this tree we went 1360 01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,200 around the corner we went up over this 1361 01:01:03,190 --> 01:00:58,559 rise we came down and there's this tree 1362 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:03,200 and it happened like three times 1363 01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:06,400 and i was just about to say uh 1364 01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:09,599 something and my friend said uh 1365 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:12,640 what time is it and i said well 1366 01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:16,880 you know it's 6 30 or so and she said 1367 01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,079 i have seen that tree now four times 1368 01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:23,200 yeah and i said i wasn't gonna say 1369 01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,200 anything i didn't want to scare you 1370 01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:30,720 i've seen that tree four times and 1371 01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,400 uh so we get out of the car and we look 1372 01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:35,839 up and down 1373 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:38,880 and there's absolutely nobody out there 1374 01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:39,760 well 1375 01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:43,040 you know it's out there anyway 1376 01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:46,799 but a lot of times you you'll see either 1377 01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:49,599 a homeless person camping out there or 1378 01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:53,520 people that rent those little uh 1379 01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:56,640 atv type things oh yeah and they'll be 1380 01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:58,160 out there running around in 1381 01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:01,599 in the desert no you know 1382 01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:05,200 nothing there was absolutely no sound 1383 01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:09,119 wow it was so i mean not a cricket 1384 01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:12,319 not the sound of wrestling we leave 1385 01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:16,240 nothing and uh you know 1386 01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:25,829 what happened like in purgatory even on 1387 01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:27,760 the planet 1388 01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:30,960 and um you know 1389 01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:34,319 she she my friend just sort of 1390 01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,160 stood up and put her arms a kimbo and 1391 01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:40,400 stomped her foot and said you let us go 1392 01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:42,400 home right now 1393 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:45,440 and we got into the cart and we were 1394 01:02:51,990 --> 01:02:48,880 home in 15 minutes wow that's crazy took 1395 01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:52,000 us over an hour 1396 01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:55,280 to get six miles that's 1397 01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:03,109 and that was when we saw saw that craft 1398 01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:06,319 um now i sent you also a picture 1399 01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:09,920 of uh i mean a painting of 1400 01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:13,280 of uh of the craft that 1401 01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:16,559 i already told you about me and melinda 1402 01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:18,960 on our way to ufo congress yeah i 1403 01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:21,599 remember yeah i remember that story yeah 1404 01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:25,200 yeah and you know it's like 1405 01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,280 she's just chatted she's such a chatter 1406 01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:28,799 box anyway and we call her a little 1407 01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:30,160 chatty cathy 1408 01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:33,119 she's just chattering away and she's 1409 01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:35,200 shattering away so fast it's like 1410 01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:39,039 i can't even interrupt her so um 1411 01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:42,240 but i see this 1412 01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:45,520 you know something that's out in uh 1413 01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:48,240 over the desert and it's just sitting 1414 01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:48,720 there 1415 01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:51,520 it's not going anywhere we are moving 1416 01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:52,960 toward it 1417 01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:56,720 but it's not moving anywhere 1418 01:04:02,870 --> 01:03:59,920 so uh you know finally 1419 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:02,880 i get her attention and we were debating 1420 01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:04,480 whether or not 1421 01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:08,240 i had my my camera 1422 01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,000 at my feet in my bag and 1423 01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:15,119 you know it was i went down 1424 01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,160 to get the camera um 1425 01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:20,559 melinda said you know well how come 1426 01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:22,480 you're not taking a photo of us like oh 1427 01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,510 it's it's like sometimes y'all had 1428 01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:29,280 pulled over right 1429 01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:31,760 yeah she no she didn't pull over she 1430 01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,069 i love melinda so much in the middle of 1431 01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:40,799 the highway you know 1432 01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,520 it's weird because that highway is 1433 01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:45,119 between cottonwood and 1434 01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:48,000 sedona it's always full of cars right 1435 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:49,359 and there was nobody around 1436 01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:52,960 a single car anywhere 1437 01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:55,200 that's what's really weird stop she gets 1438 01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:57,920 out and she starts laughing 1439 01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:01,280 and uh i said i i go what's 1440 01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:03,599 you know what's the deal i go it's plain 1441 01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:04,559 right 1442 01:05:11,829 --> 01:05:08,960 um and uh she said no it's gone 1443 01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:11,839 she said it's that's what she tells her 1444 01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:12,400 clients 1445 01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:15,839 she has a ufo uh night watch 1446 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,319 um tour that she does with night vision 1447 01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:20,160 goggles here in sedona 1448 01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:23,599 and uh she said uh that's what i tell my 1449 01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:26,400 clients is like it's not in them coming 1450 01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:27,520 it's not on them 1451 01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,319 you know moving around in the sky it's 1452 01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:32,079 what you have to watch out for is the 1453 01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:33,680 way they leave 1454 01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:38,400 and this is pretty close to us i mean if 1455 01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:41,359 um this picture is obviously blown up 1456 01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:43,200 but if you held your 1457 01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:46,880 your arm out and you put your thumb up 1458 01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:49,599 it would it was wider than your thumb 1459 01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,640 yeah yeah go 1460 01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,559 for those those listening could you 1461 01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,480 could you explain maybe the color and 1462 01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:56,160 shape maybe of it for just those that 1463 01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:57,520 are listening 1464 01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:00,960 of the crap okay so when we first 1465 01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:04,000 when i first saw it it it was like 1466 01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:07,520 a silver glint like you know like you 1467 01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:10,960 sees light coming off of 1468 01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:14,160 some sort of metal but there was this 1469 01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:18,240 weird red uh 1470 01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:22,319 uh i'm gonna say a tail or or a flare or 1471 01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:23,039 something that 1472 01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:26,319 was emitting from one side of it 1473 01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:29,359 and uh uh you know i kept on 1474 01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:31,680 looking at it because it looked like 1475 01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:32,400 just a 1476 01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:35,839 fuselage it was just you know 1477 01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:38,640 kind not really a cigar shape because it 1478 01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:39,680 had 1479 01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,079 kind of a bump to it but there were no 1480 01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:44,400 wings and i kept on looking at it trying 1481 01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:45,039 to 1482 01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:48,319 see if it had wings and a tail 1483 01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:52,000 and all i saw was this red 1484 01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:55,359 flare that came off of one side 1485 01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:58,960 and um and of course it's getting bigger 1486 01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:01,520 not because it's coming toward us we are 1487 01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:02,559 moving toward 1488 01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:05,680 it oh and uh 1489 01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:09,359 so we get closer and closer 1490 01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,480 and melinda kept on saying oh no it's 1491 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,079 that's an airplane that's an airplane 1492 01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:16,400 i said it doesn't have any wings it 1493 01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,000 doesn't have a tail 1494 01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:21,119 that's not an airplane of all people 1495 01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:22,720 that could 1496 01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:26,000 be able to spy you know something that 1497 01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,280 isn't that is unusual and she goes well 1498 01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:31,119 maybe it's a helicopter 1499 01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:34,240 so uh you know and i said no 1500 01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:36,319 it's not a helicopter either it's not 1501 01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:38,480 the shape of a helicopter 1502 01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:41,760 and uh she goes well it's it's 1503 01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:44,079 you know it's not moving very fast i 1504 01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:51,589 it's stationary out there and so 1505 01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:55,200 she just slams on her brakes 1506 01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:58,640 and we're in the fast lane of a two-lane 1507 01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:01,680 highway i mean a four-lane highway 1508 01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:04,960 um it's it's a divided highway 1509 01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:09,359 and uh she she just pops out of the car 1510 01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:11,200 i'm thinking oh my god i hope nobody 1511 01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:12,720 slams them behind 1512 01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:15,760 yeah yeah seriously and i i get out of 1513 01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:17,759 the car too there isn't a car 1514 01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:20,880 to be seen anywhere 1515 01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:24,799 it is abs and it's absolutely quiet 1516 01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:28,880 it is you know it's weird 1517 01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:32,080 and it says 10 10 30 yeah there was no 1518 01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:32,880 traffic 1519 01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:37,199 soon as 1520 01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:40,719 that ufo disappeared 1521 01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:43,440 and melinda got back into the car and 1522 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:44,719 you know have we headed 1523 01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:48,159 back down 89 towards cottonwood 1524 01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,640 all these cars were everywhere like 1525 01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:55,920 yeah yeah yeah it was it was weird so 1526 01:09:02,630 --> 01:08:59,600 um so yeah so it was uh basically 1527 01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:02,640 a kind of a 1528 01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:06,000 cigar shape but with a hump to it and 1529 01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:09,279 it was silver gray 1530 01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:12,640 um kind of blend where there was some 1531 01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,159 kind of blue to blend in with the sky 1532 01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:19,199 i guess because it had this weird 1533 01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:22,319 red flare off of what you died you know 1534 01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:23,199 i wonder 1535 01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:26,239 uh if it's possible 1536 01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:29,279 i mean it let's just you know go into 1537 01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:32,480 total uh theory mode here but do you 1538 01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:33,199 think 1539 01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:35,920 maybe given your background and 1540 01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,359 melinda's background this could have 1541 01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,279 been some sort of like 1542 01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:41,359 message of some sort maybe you slipped 1543 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:43,839 into a little bit of 1544 01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:46,400 uh you know no man's land and they were 1545 01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:46,960 like hey 1546 01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:49,359 we're just either either hey don't tell 1547 01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:50,400 everybody about us 1548 01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:52,960 or or hey we're with you you're doing 1549 01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,400 the right thing 1550 01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,480 hey we were on our way to get on the 1551 01:10:01,830 --> 01:09:58,560 airplane to go to ufo con 1552 01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:01,840 2020 in san francisco yeah that was hard 1553 01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,239 to 1554 01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:04,560 i kind of thought that they were saying 1555 01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:06,800 hey don't forget sephora you know 1556 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,159 yeah don't forget your town 1557 01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:12,719 here here's something to talk about oh 1558 01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:13,600 man 1559 01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:16,560 so basically yeah that's that's it i 1560 01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:17,520 sent you another 1561 01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,280 um painting too of a ship that 1562 01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:23,600 was over kim carlsberg's house i don't 1563 01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:25,520 know if anybody's familiar with kim 1564 01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:26,719 carlsberg 1565 01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:30,080 but she had 1566 01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:32,880 eight years of abduction experiences 1567 01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,239 they were not good for her 1568 01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:38,480 she had a you know pretty hard time but 1569 01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:40,800 she ended up 1570 01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,520 writing three books and um 1571 01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:48,159 uh she wrote the art of close encounters 1572 01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:48,960 and she got 1573 01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:57,270 daryl anka who channels bashar 1574 01:11:01,990 --> 01:10:59,520 is her best friend he was also an 1575 01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,000 illustrator before he was bashar 1576 01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:03,920 so he was the one that did all the 1577 01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:05,120 illustrations 1578 01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:14,470 she did a quite a bit of channeling with 1579 01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:15,120 me 1580 01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:24,000 an ouija board not really quite 1581 01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:27,199 the same but sort of uh 1582 01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:29,679 i can take a photo of it and send it to 1583 01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:30,239 you 1584 01:11:36,149 --> 01:11:33,280 because i made it myself 1585 01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,159 we were we were playing around with this 1586 01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:38,239 board and it was spelling out all these 1587 01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:41,440 different things and it turned out to be 1588 01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:44,800 her hybrid 1589 01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:48,400 son uh a qual 1590 01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:51,760 and what she also called q long before q 1591 01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,590 and she she used to call him q and and 1592 01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:01,120 or qual 1593 01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:04,640 and uh he there was one time they were 1594 01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:05,520 doing 1595 01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:10,000 together 1596 01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:13,679 and it said uh you know it spelled out 1597 01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:17,440 come outside right now look up 1598 01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:20,840 and we went outside and right over her 1599 01:12:25,709 --> 01:12:22,159 head 1600 01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,719 was this kind of bell-shaped kind of a 1601 01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:27,760 copper-colored 1602 01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:30,880 uh craft 1603 01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:34,719 and it had these bright lights 1604 01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:38,000 that were going like around in a circle 1605 01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:38,719 of 1606 01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,239 um red and orange and blue 1607 01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:44,400 and green and they were they were kind 1608 01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:45,600 of going around 1609 01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:50,080 and kind of spinning on the bottom 1610 01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:53,360 part of of the craft interesting 1611 01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:56,480 and uh so as soon as 1612 01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:59,600 i saw that i ran inside and grabbed my 1613 01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,320 camera 1614 01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:02,719 and of course by the time i came out she 1615 01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,440 said the moment that you went inside 1616 01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:07,360 it just disappeared it just went 1617 01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:08,640 straight up 1618 01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:11,360 you know sometimes i feel like they they 1619 01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:12,080 can 1620 01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:16,400 capturing it with a camera i think they 1621 01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:17,040 can pick on 1622 01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,120 they can read your thoughts yeah yeah so 1623 01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:20,880 like any time anybody's like oh let me 1624 01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:22,640 pull up my phone then they just 1625 01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:25,679 spoof you know and they said not today 1626 01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,600 sorry charlie sorry you guys it's almost 1627 01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:29,199 like you have to think to yourself you 1628 01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,080 know like 1629 01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:33,120 you see it i did the painting of that 1630 01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:34,960 and then it's a great painting by the 1631 01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:37,520 way there is uh 1632 01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:45,669 i used to be really good friends with 1633 01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:49,920 the mufon director here in sedona and he 1634 01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:52,960 since has passed away but 1635 01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,360 he told me about 1636 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:59,040 you know he called me up one day and he 1637 01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,400 goes you know you've been seeing 1638 01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:02,480 anything weird or right you're like 1639 01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,600 oh you know roger daniel i 1640 01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:08,159 i feed people i see weird things all the 1641 01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:11,280 time so what exactly you're doing 1642 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:14,960 and he said well there's people 1643 01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:19,040 um that have a ranch out toward 1644 01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:22,719 bradshaw ranch in that general area 1645 01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:27,280 and um this vamana comes by 1646 01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:30,719 about every night 1647 01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:34,000 to the point that they 1648 01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:38,320 sold their ranch and moved to phoenix 1649 01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:41,360 you know i was like i didn't know 1650 01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:43,440 what it was and they weren't if they 1651 01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:45,679 weren't happy about it tired of it 1652 01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:49,280 and uh and so i said well about what 1653 01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:51,199 time do they come out 1654 01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:54,080 and uh and it was that you know some 1655 01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,080 ridiculous time in the morning 1656 01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:58,320 like you know 10 minutes to 4 in the 1657 01:15:03,590 --> 01:14:59,920 morning and 1658 01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:03,600 and so this guy 1659 01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:06,640 that i know who is a cinematographer his 1660 01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,040 name is paul 1661 01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:11,920 he decided that he was going to go and 1662 01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,040 set up 1663 01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,080 in an area that overlooked one of the 1664 01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,520 you know the the area of the ranch and 1665 01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:21,920 with his cameras and he was just going 1666 01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:22,880 to 1667 01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:26,480 long and 1668 01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,719 we fought in for as long as it took but 1669 01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:30,640 he decided that he was going to 1670 01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:34,080 film this the mana and which he 1671 01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:38,640 did and i believe that that film 1672 01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:41,840 um that clip is still on kim carl 1673 01:15:48,910 --> 01:15:45,600 carlsberg's website uh if 1674 01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:48,920 her website is still up and it's just 1675 01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:50,800 kimcarlsberg.com 1676 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:54,719 and um carlsberg liked the beer 1677 01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:57,760 with a c c or a k uh 1678 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:01,280 a c k i m 1679 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:10,550 l c-a-r-l-s b e r g and um 1680 01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:13,830 she uh uh so 1681 01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:17,440 um uh we're getting a 404 but maybe 1682 01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:20,560 maybe it's somewhere uh 1683 01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:23,679 3 30 in the morning 1684 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:27,040 i get this text justin you got to get 1685 01:16:30,790 --> 01:16:28,640 out here right now 1686 01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:30,800 it's here it's been here i've been 1687 01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:33,280 filming it for about 20 minutes 1688 01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:37,120 wow dang and so i 1689 01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:40,880 popped up and got my car and i drove 1690 01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:42,239 over there 1691 01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:45,760 and i saw it just as it was leaving 1692 01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:49,280 and uh the 1693 01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:52,400 camera quit i mean he he got about 1694 01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:55,840 i want to say 10-15 minutes and then his 1695 01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:57,520 camera quit working 1696 01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,159 so he had a picture of it but it's like 1697 01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:02,400 way off in the distance 1698 01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:05,040 but it's still there you can still see 1699 01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:06,000 it 1700 01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:11,760 um and uh so i get out there 1701 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,550 and 1702 01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:25,750 i am looking towards wu ranch which is 1703 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:28,880 um pretty weird woo-woo 1704 01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:40,950 you know i pull in i turn my car off 1705 01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:43,280 turn the lights off and i see it 1706 01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,400 immediately 1707 01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:47,280 wow and i get out and uh you know it's 1708 01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:48,960 pitch dark 1709 01:17:52,870 --> 01:17:52,239 and you know you can hear coyotes 1710 01:17:57,510 --> 01:17:52,880 singing 1711 01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:57,520 and and the owls hooting and there was 1712 01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:58,000 paul 1713 01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:01,199 and his girlfriend and they're 1714 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:05,120 you know looking at at this 1715 01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:08,320 event as well and uh 1716 01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:09,840 i said well are you filming and they 1717 01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:11,360 said oh yeah you know 1718 01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:13,280 i don't know what happened i ran out of 1719 01:18:16,870 --> 01:18:14,400 battery i did i 1720 01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:16,880 i don't know some my camera is not 1721 01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,000 working 1722 01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:21,280 so but i did get some i can't tell how 1723 01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:22,320 much because 1724 01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:24,159 right now because my camera isn't 1725 01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:27,280 working yeah but um 1726 01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:31,520 so it got pretty close and 1727 01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,120 um that picture i painted 1728 01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:37,920 that was about life size for me this is 1729 01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:38,400 the 1730 01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:41,679 closest i've ever been 1731 01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:45,360 to a crap that i can remember 1732 01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:48,560 with clarity yeah yeah wow without being 1733 01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:50,320 regressed or something like that 1734 01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:53,760 right and uh it was of the mana shape it 1735 01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:54,000 was 1736 01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:57,679 a pyramid shape uh it had these 1737 01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:01,040 bright lights um 1738 01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:04,480 that were going around the bottom 1739 01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:07,280 part of it and it just it just sat there 1740 01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:08,000 for a while 1741 01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:11,440 and then it again straight up 1742 01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:14,159 just disappeared straight out and it was 1743 01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:16,560 a huge 1744 01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:20,000 not pyramid shape but dome shape but 1745 01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:21,040 yeah you know that 1746 01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:24,880 that type of uh really tall 1747 01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,080 uh dome and yeah it looks in your in 1748 01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:29,840 your painting it's almost like a pyramid 1749 01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:31,600 shape but it's almost bloated at the 1750 01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:34,320 at the seams it's kind of like on the 1751 01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:35,360 bottom 1752 01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:38,960 and that the way that i showed it was 1753 01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:42,000 the you know because it was tipped up 1754 01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:44,640 away from me so i saw a lot of the 1755 01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:45,199 bottom 1756 01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:48,719 yeah yeah and uh 1757 01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:52,080 but his all you can see are these 1758 01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:54,880 lights are you know the the lights going 1759 01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:56,239 around and around they 1760 01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:00,080 really don't see uh too much structure 1761 01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:03,199 yeah but that was that was pretty a lot 1762 01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:04,080 of fun 1763 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:07,520 yeah uh going out there and and 1764 01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:09,920 seeing that so you know if you want to 1765 01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:11,760 go come to sedona 1766 01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,239 and go out at four o'clock in the 1767 01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,080 morning 1768 01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:18,480 yes these are weird places over there 1769 01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:19,600 you might 1770 01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:22,560 find thanks and i think the other things 1771 01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:22,960 that i 1772 01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:26,560 showed you were some of the um 1773 01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:31,520 the et's that i have are we out of time 1774 01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:34,800 oh no no you're good okay 1775 01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:38,960 okay so uh the i sent you a couple of 1776 01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:42,639 paintings i did of et's yeah 1777 01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:46,639 um yeah we're looking at one of them 1778 01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:49,679 there's this big blue-eyed guy which i 1779 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:51,679 called the captain 1780 01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:56,320 uh he's you know it's sort of weird 1781 01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:59,120 as like you know something is going to 1782 01:21:02,709 --> 01:20:59,520 happen 1783 01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:02,719 i because they give you um 1784 01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:06,159 uh clues uh for me 1785 01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:10,560 i get a taste in my mouth like 1786 01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:13,840 like if popcorn were electricity it 1787 01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:14,560 would taste 1788 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:18,320 like this oh wow interesting popcorn 1789 01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,320 yeah popcorn yeah 1790 01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,239 i can like almost picture that that's a 1791 01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:25,920 very visual visual 1792 01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:29,280 yeah and whenever and a lot of times 1793 01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:32,880 um like uh 1794 01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:35,199 right before i saw this big blue-eyed 1795 01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:37,440 guy that i called the captain 1796 01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:40,960 uh i was sitting outside uh 1797 01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:44,080 having a glass of wine at sunset 1798 01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:46,960 and i looked down on the table and there 1799 01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:47,520 was 1800 01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:51,120 a praying mantis that had to be at least 1801 01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:51,600 seven 1802 01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:55,360 inches long wow just sitting on the 1803 01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:56,400 table looking 1804 01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:00,639 right at me what and uh 1805 01:22:04,430 --> 01:22:03,040 that's a big prank these are some of the 1806 01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:04,440 clues it's like these 1807 01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:08,080 unusual things and unusual size 1808 01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:11,760 unusual smells unusual 1809 01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:14,639 thing and one of the things that i i 1810 01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:15,199 took 1811 01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:19,360 of that photo of the orbs 1812 01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:23,360 about three nights ago that was 1813 01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:27,120 earlier uh i had 1814 01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:29,920 i saw those orbs or i felt them there 1815 01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:31,840 and so i just took a photo 1816 01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:33,440 and then of course i saw them in the 1817 01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:35,440 photo several 1818 01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:39,760 orbs and later that night 1819 01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:42,800 there i saw um 1820 01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:45,040 obviously a craft it was you know 1821 01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:47,040 probably 1822 01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:50,400 10 000 feet up but it was the way that 1823 01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,280 it was zigzagging and across 1824 01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:55,679 the sky so that was another one of my 1825 01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:56,320 clues 1826 01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,760 um i feel like i need to do 1827 01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:01,920 a little more meditation and then find 1828 01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:03,440 out what was going but 1829 01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,719 this a captain guy he has been in my 1830 01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:08,159 house 1831 01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:11,679 at least three times that i know 1832 01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:15,280 of wow and uh right 1833 01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:18,560 right before the pandemic hit 1834 01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:22,400 i i'd gone to ufo con i was home 1835 01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:24,400 and before they really locked in 1836 01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:26,080 everything down 1837 01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,199 i got that taste of burp popcorn 1838 01:23:33,669 --> 01:23:30,880 electric 1839 01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:33,679 burnt popcorn in my mouth and i knew 1840 01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:34,560 that 1841 01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:37,360 i was going to have some sort of contact 1842 01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:38,719 so you know 1843 01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:46,790 my house looks right 1844 01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:49,840 over the area of 1845 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,360 um the rent is the the gps coordinates 1846 01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:55,040 for sedona that were 1847 01:24:02,149 --> 01:23:58,159 put in the rendelsham case uh-huh yeah 1848 01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:02,159 uh so so we get a lot of activity here 1849 01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:05,280 yeah yeah what was the what was that 1850 01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:08,320 yeah but i i woke up one night and 1851 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:12,159 here was this guy leaning over me 1852 01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:14,320 looking just like this master race might 1853 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:17,440 painted it like that 1854 01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:20,320 he was he was right he just walked right 1855 01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:22,000 through the wall 1856 01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:24,880 got right next to my bed and leaned over 1857 01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:25,600 until i 1858 01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:27,920 opened my eyes is this the one with that 1859 01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:29,840 looks like there's a baton in his hand 1860 01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:30,480 or 1861 01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,600 no that's uh that's another one that i'm 1862 01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,280 going to talk to about 1863 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:37,920 but no this is the blue eyed guy okay 1864 01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:38,560 okay 1865 01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:40,000 yeah we're looking at it right now yeah 1866 01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,600 okay so 1867 01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:43,679 the big blue eyed guy now the guy that's 1868 01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:44,960 got the 1869 01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:48,639 uh i don't know what it was 1870 01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:52,239 uh some sort of device in his hand 1871 01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:55,840 um he is this was a 1872 01:25:02,629 --> 01:24:59,760 creature that was 1873 01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,639 here again in my house this is around 1874 01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:04,320 christmas time 1875 01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:07,760 after i had a bunch of a 1876 01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:12,000 bunch of company uh you know my kids 1877 01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:14,800 relatives and brothers-in-laws 1878 01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:16,880 sisters-in-law and all that 1879 01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:20,000 and everything had kind of settled down 1880 01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:22,080 and it was about the beginning of the 1881 01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:24,840 year and 1882 01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:26,719 uh 1883 01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:34,159 she it was two o'clock in the morning oh 1884 01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:37,840 and i was home alone that was 1885 01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:40,400 and she was going crazy it was about two 1886 01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:42,000 o'clock in the morning i really thought 1887 01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:43,440 that maybe 1888 01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:46,960 uh a wild animal like a javelina or a 1889 01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:48,880 deer was in the yard 1890 01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,360 yeah and that you know she would have 1891 01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:52,880 pitch in a fit about that 1892 01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:55,600 or santa claus was just late you know 1893 01:26:03,110 --> 01:25:56,800 but when i 1894 01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:03,120 he's about five feet tall about you know 1895 01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:04,000 the same 1896 01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:08,560 height as i am and uh 1897 01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:11,840 he had this device 1898 01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:14,960 and that's all i remember yeah 1899 01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:19,360 that's all i remember but i got you know 1900 01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:21,760 as soon as i i remembered that had 1901 01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:23,199 happened i sat down 1902 01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:25,600 and sketched it out and so all right 1903 01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:27,120 whatever happened there i'm gonna have 1904 01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:28,560 to be regressed 1905 01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:31,040 yeah i really don't know so jocelyn i 1906 01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:31,600 have a 1907 01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:35,280 a a similar story from a family friend 1908 01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,000 that had 1909 01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:37,920 a an experience when she was a little 1910 01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:39,840 girl and she had 1911 01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:43,120 a uh three light beings show up in a 1912 01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:45,199 hallway outside of her bedroom 1913 01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:48,560 one night and they pointed a 1914 01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:52,000 wand type a wand type device at her 1915 01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,880 forehead and she felt impact on her 1916 01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:56,719 forehead and just passed out and woke up 1917 01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,320 the next morning 1918 01:27:01,350 --> 01:27:00,239 on the floor and she always remembers 1919 01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:01,360 this wand 1920 01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:03,440 kind of device thing so it's interesting 1921 01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:04,639 that it's showing up again 1922 01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:06,159 and and this story i haven't heard you 1923 01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:09,760 talk about this specifically 1924 01:27:14,709 --> 01:27:12,400 yeah the only thing that i remember was 1925 01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:14,719 very distinctly of seeing those six 1926 01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:18,080 fingers and he was moving them so 1927 01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:21,360 quickly uh moving his one hand like 1928 01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:24,480 back and forth so quickly oh okay you 1929 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,040 know i 1930 01:27:29,430 --> 01:27:27,280 i i focused on it and i'm trying to 1931 01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:29,440 count one two three four five 1932 01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:31,360 yeah i see the motion in the painting it 1933 01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:32,480 seems like there's 1934 01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:35,199 yeah okay now i get it yeah yeah yeah 1935 01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:36,719 but that's the only thing that i 1936 01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:37,840 remember it the other 1937 01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:47,350 this came from um need to experience 1938 01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:51,600 back in the 70s when i came across 1939 01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:54,960 this being that could have been a 1940 01:28:03,350 --> 01:27:59,679 reptilian she was very beautiful 1941 01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:06,470 i like i said i called her andre 1942 01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:09,840 or andrea and she had big 1943 01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:15,120 beautiful eyes and but she had this band 1944 01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:19,040 and whatever this band was across her 1945 01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:19,840 head 1946 01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,280 had something to do with the way 1947 01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:26,239 that i was being controlled or maybe it 1948 01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:28,159 was the way that she was talking or 1949 01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:30,560 communicating with me 1950 01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:34,080 um she was very colorful 1951 01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,360 very iridescent and 1952 01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:39,679 this painting i sent to you it's not 1953 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:40,719 really finished 1954 01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:43,120 but i couldn't figure out how to really 1955 01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:44,239 portray 1956 01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:47,360 the iridescence that she had yeah 1957 01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:51,920 like you know like how you look at a 1958 01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:55,920 hummingbird and and their feathers are 1959 01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:57,360 kind of iridescent 1960 01:29:01,590 --> 01:29:00,000 right yeah that's that's what it 1961 01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,600 reminded me 1962 01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:03,520 i almost thought that she was covered 1963 01:29:07,830 --> 01:29:04,800 with feathers 1964 01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:07,840 i'm not really sure but i think that's 1965 01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:10,880 all the the paintings and 1966 01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:13,520 photos that i sent to you this time i 1967 01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:15,440 love them and they're yeah these are 1968 01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,719 amazing i love them they're so good 1969 01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:20,960 hey what is uh what's sedona like in 1970 01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:23,600 march is is it pretty nice 1971 01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:27,600 um march is absolutely 1972 01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:35,270 we actually have more white easters 1973 01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:38,239 than we have white christmases really so 1974 01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:39,440 it can be 1975 01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:43,120 yeah you know we get we're 1976 01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:46,639 four seasons here we have snow 1977 01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:50,000 uh and uh it's 1978 01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:54,320 it's like march can be 1979 01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:57,679 nice and warm and beautiful but it also 1980 01:30:02,149 --> 01:29:58,880 can be a time 1981 01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:02,159 when a snowstorm will come in 1982 01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:05,520 and dump six inches uh so 1983 01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:08,719 wow it's uh of course 1984 01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:12,000 we've been in a drought so it hasn't 1985 01:30:17,590 --> 01:30:14,560 happened the last couple of years 1986 01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:17,600 um i am in the first year that i lived 1987 01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:18,560 here 1988 01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:21,840 and it got to be march 20th which is the 1989 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:22,880 spring 1990 01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:26,159 equinox and i decided oh 1991 01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:28,560 it's time to plant my garden because 1992 01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:29,840 that's what i did 1993 01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:33,040 in california on the spring equinox 1994 01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:36,560 and i planted and i 1995 01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:39,920 hired a guy worked up all this nice 1996 01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:43,040 big area and i got it all planted looked 1997 01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:44,000 all really 1998 01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:47,840 great i my plants were doing really well 1999 01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:48,560 and then 2000 01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:51,520 it snowed wow that's crazy yeah because 2001 01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:54,000 i mean i've been twice and both times 2002 01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:57,120 it was in september absolutely gorgeous 2003 01:31:00,870 --> 01:30:58,639 uh and we're thinking about making 2004 01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:00,880 another trip my wife's birthday is 2005 01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:04,000 is uh in march and so i was kind of 2006 01:31:06,870 --> 01:31:04,719 inquiring 2007 01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:06,880 we went in february no it was it was 2008 01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,159 september yeah 2009 01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:10,320 yeah so i don't know i i haven't been to 2010 01:31:14,950 --> 01:31:12,000 sedona when it snows that 2011 01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:14,960 sounds kind of cool by next march oh i 2012 01:31:22,470 --> 01:31:15,440 know 2013 01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:22,480 i i feel really bad because 2014 01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:25,040 i'm really missing all of our ufo 2015 01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:26,080 conferences 2016 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:29,360 and there's been five 2017 01:31:33,669 --> 01:31:32,080 now that i was going to go to yeah that 2018 01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:33,679 have been cancelled 2019 01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:36,000 so what a bummer and then you know the 2020 01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:37,360 ones uh 2021 01:31:42,149 --> 01:31:40,560 like contact in the desert and uh human 2022 01:31:44,790 --> 01:31:42,159 origins i was supposed to be the 2023 01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:44,800 photographer there so 2024 01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:47,840 you know it's it's sad yeah nothing is 2025 01:31:51,910 --> 01:31:48,719 bad 2026 01:31:56,830 --> 01:31:51,920 i'm signed up to go to um 2027 01:32:02,629 --> 01:31:59,510 symposium in july 2028 01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:02,639 i think it is yeah in las vegas 2029 01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:06,080 so fingers crossed that would be cool 2030 01:32:09,750 --> 01:32:08,159 dang yeah well you know what happens in 2031 01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:09,760 las vegas when you get all the 2032 01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:12,000 the crew together you know it gets 2033 01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:18,229 well you know years ago we would go to 2034 01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:22,960 las vegas for international ufo congress 2035 01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:23,760 and 2036 01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:33,360 but um yeah we 2037 01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:35,280 the first couple of years of 2038 01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:38,400 international ufo congress i went 2039 01:32:46,870 --> 01:32:42,800 and uh uh 2040 01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:46,880 i uh that's when i met sean david morton 2041 01:32:53,910 --> 01:32:51,040 and he took me out to area 51. 2042 01:32:54,990 --> 01:32:53,920 cool very cool yeah i'm to say that was 2043 01:32:58,229 --> 01:32:55,000 probably 2044 01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:58,239 1999 and then uh 2045 01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:01,920 there was a time i kept what what year 2046 01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:08,550 uh the people from uh 2047 01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:12,000 gosh where they call heaven's gate oh 2048 01:33:15,430 --> 01:33:14,480 oh yeah yeah the the massive the british 2049 01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:15,440 davidian yeah 2050 01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:18,719 himself in march and in february 2051 01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:22,080 was the international ufo congress and 2052 01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:25,040 i was supposed to go out with uh sean 2053 01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:26,880 david horton 2054 01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:30,400 that year and uh 2055 01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:33,600 he kind of you know just blew 2056 01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:36,320 me off because of all of these heaven 2057 01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:37,440 gate kids 2058 01:33:43,030 --> 01:33:41,120 yeah they were all over the conference 2059 01:33:44,229 --> 01:33:43,040 all over and you know you could tell 2060 01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:44,239 because they were all like in this 2061 01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:45,360 uniform 2062 01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:48,000 back bags and the white tennis shoes and 2063 01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:50,800 the khaki pants and their blue shirts 2064 01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:54,000 and they just had 2065 01:34:02,149 --> 01:33:58,480 wads of money in their pockets 2066 01:34:03,990 --> 01:34:02,159 and so i know that sean kept on taking 2067 01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:04,000 them out to area 51 and 2068 01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:12,390 i remember david applewhite 2069 01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:16,000 talking with bob dean 2070 01:34:21,189 --> 01:34:19,280 at the conference and they got into a 2071 01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:21,199 heated discussion 2072 01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:24,480 and they left they were in the back 2073 01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:27,120 part of the conference you know they 2074 01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:29,199 have 2075 01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:32,480 the stage and the chairs and then 2076 01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:35,520 way in the back there were these tables 2077 01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:38,159 and you know then the doors that go in 2078 01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:38,800 and out 2079 01:34:42,149 --> 01:34:41,280 and they were back there on the table um 2080 01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:42,159 and they were 2081 01:34:49,030 --> 01:34:46,000 louder 2082 01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:49,040 to the point where you know he could 2083 01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:50,880 hardly hear 2084 01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:53,920 whoever was talking was you know 2085 01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:57,280 having a hard time talking over them 2086 01:35:04,390 --> 01:35:00,880 and uh so they left 2087 01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:04,400 and they went into uh one of those 2088 01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:07,600 little conference rooms off to the side 2089 01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:12,159 of of the main reception area where you 2090 01:35:17,109 --> 01:35:13,760 check in 2091 01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:17,119 and right next door to it to this 2092 01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:20,239 conference room was the women's bathroom 2093 01:35:24,229 --> 01:35:23,360 i just happened to need to use the 2094 01:35:27,430 --> 01:35:24,239 restroom 2095 01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:27,440 and when i came out and i had heard them 2096 01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:28,000 before 2097 01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:31,360 when they were at the back of the room 2098 01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:35,280 um i think that somebody asked them to 2099 01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:36,080 leave 2100 01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:39,119 might have been bob brown and 2101 01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:43,360 so they took up their conversation and 2102 01:35:49,990 --> 01:35:46,880 bob dean who 2103 01:35:53,590 --> 01:35:50,000 was very mad 2104 01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:53,600 i've never seen him so bad 2105 01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:57,760 and he was talking to john applewhite 2106 01:36:02,709 --> 01:36:01,040 just berating him from one side of the 2107 01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:02,719 room to the other 2108 01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:06,560 and saying don't do this don't do this 2109 01:36:15,109 --> 01:36:10,239 you know your nuts don't do this 2110 01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:15,119 and uh of course three weeks later 2111 01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:18,320 they were all dead man that's crazy 2112 01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:21,440 wow wow you know 2113 01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:25,679 me being the weirdo that i am 2114 01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:27,760 uh the heavens gate people were all 2115 01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:30,000 living in dennis weaver's house 2116 01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:33,520 down on the coast in 2117 01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:37,199 southern california very exclusive area 2118 01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:40,560 and uh they were going to have 2119 01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:43,679 an estate sale and 2120 01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:46,719 it was uh you know 2121 01:36:49,750 --> 01:36:49,199 people that were in the ufo community 2122 01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:49,760 kind of 2123 01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:55,520 otherwise it was just a plain estate 2124 01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,320 cell well 2125 01:36:59,910 --> 01:36:58,320 of course i knew what was going on i 2126 01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,920 wanted to go see where they were living 2127 01:37:04,229 --> 01:37:01,199 and why they were 2128 01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:04,239 why they did what they did yeah so 2129 01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:06,000 well that that whole thing had a whole 2130 01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:07,520 connection with with 2131 01:37:10,709 --> 01:37:09,520 extraterrestrials right like the heavens 2132 01:37:13,990 --> 01:37:10,719 gate was 2133 01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:14,000 well yeah because they saw of the 2134 01:37:32,830 --> 01:37:15,920 comment 2135 01:38:17,990 --> 01:37:32,840 a 2136 01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:18,000 remember there were these guys 2137 01:38:24,149 --> 01:38:21,040 and when we saw them at the ufo congress 2138 01:38:27,189 --> 01:38:24,159 they just had lots of cash rods 2139 01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:27,199 and wads and wads like i 2140 01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:29,119 was standing next to this guy and he was 2141 01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:30,639 pulling out his 2142 01:38:35,350 --> 01:38:33,440 wad of cash to buy one of stanton 2143 01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:35,360 friedman's books 2144 01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:38,560 and uh i mean 2145 01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:42,480 it he probably had two thousand dollars 2146 01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:45,600 rolled up and with a band around it whoa 2147 01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:47,760 that's not 2148 01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:51,360 man yeah and they were buying 2149 01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:55,440 anything that had to do with ufos 2150 01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:57,520 they were buying stupid socks they were 2151 01:39:04,149 --> 01:39:00,159 buying books they were buying videos 2152 01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:04,159 they were buying anything they could 2153 01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,119 and you know and sean david morton was 2154 01:39:12,629 --> 01:39:09,360 more than happy to take their money 2155 01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:12,639 so wow so he blew me off and 2156 01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:15,520 took that instead yeah anyway i guess 2157 01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:17,280 that makes sense right anyway 2158 01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:20,159 there you have it for the month so 2159 01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:21,360 anyway i go to this 2160 01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:26,159 uh uh at the time 2161 01:39:33,510 --> 01:39:29,840 um in my life ebay had just come out 2162 01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:33,520 and i had a i was a stay-at-home mom 2163 01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,840 so i had this little side business going 2164 01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:37,760 where i would go to 2165 01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:40,480 uh garage sales and rummage sales and i 2166 01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:42,000 would find things and then i would sell 2167 01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:43,679 them on ebay 2168 01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:46,719 and so a lot of people 2169 01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:50,960 that ran these estate sales 2170 01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:54,000 knew kind of knew me because i 2171 01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:57,040 i was at all the estate sales in orange 2172 01:40:02,390 --> 01:39:59,280 county at that time 2173 01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:02,400 so i get to this estate sale supposed to 2174 01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:03,040 open at 2175 01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:05,920 eight i get there six in the morning 2176 01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:06,880 where i'm dr 2177 01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:09,920 you can't see the house from the street 2178 01:40:16,390 --> 01:40:13,119 it's a long windy 2179 01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:16,400 road and uh you know the sun had just 2180 01:40:20,790 --> 01:40:17,440 come up and 2181 01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,800 it's still pretty dark and i park in the 2182 01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:22,400 driveway and there's a couple other 2183 01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:24,880 people that are arrived at the same time 2184 01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:28,239 and one woman i sort of recognized from 2185 01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:31,520 you know seeing her around so i go in 2186 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:34,719 and i think they thought that i was part 2187 01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:37,760 of the estate sale you know like one of 2188 01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:38,400 the people 2189 01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:41,840 pricing things and so i go in 2190 01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:43,920 and the first thing i see i go in 2191 01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:47,040 through the garage and into the kitchen 2192 01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:50,639 and they're pulling out all of these 2193 01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:54,719 boxes of um 2194 01:41:03,109 --> 01:40:59,360 really expensive pots and pans and 2195 01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:03,119 you know you know really gourmet 2196 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,159 stuff and these 2197 01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:08,320 these pots and these pans and and 2198 01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:11,440 they're still in the original boxes 2199 01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:14,080 and i'm looking at it thinking gosh you 2200 01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:14,560 know 2201 01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:17,360 they really expect to kill themselves it 2202 01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:19,920 looks like they just 2203 01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:23,199 they just now bought all of this 2204 01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:25,280 really great cookware they're gonna be 2205 01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:26,880 great chefs 2206 01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:30,719 and and then i saw they made their own 2207 01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:32,159 vitamins they had 2208 01:41:38,470 --> 01:41:35,360 all of these empty pill boxes and 2209 01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:38,480 these devices that would fill them up 2210 01:41:42,950 --> 01:41:38,960 and 2211 01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:42,960 them 2212 01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:46,080 i mean a huge amount of boxes 2213 01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:49,760 of gelatin capsules 2214 01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:52,080 so they can make their own vitamins and 2215 01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:54,639 they can make their own things 2216 01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:57,760 there was more candy in that 2217 01:42:04,629 --> 01:42:01,280 kitchen than there was anything else 2218 01:42:07,910 --> 01:42:04,639 candy everywhere boxes of candy 2219 01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:07,920 mars bars chocolate chips uh 2220 01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:11,679 cookies uh i mean uh you know 2221 01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:15,280 and like gummy bears and i mean just 2222 01:42:20,470 --> 01:42:18,480 all kinds of of sweet treats and i 2223 01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,480 thought god that's weird 2224 01:42:24,149 --> 01:42:22,800 they're you know because they're making 2225 01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:24,159 their own 2226 01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:27,199 vitamins but they're eating 2227 01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:31,360 all this candy yeah what is that about 2228 01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:34,960 so anyway i go into the next room 2229 01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:37,920 and there's this woman there the mexican 2230 01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:38,480 woman 2231 01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:41,600 and uh she's vacuuming and you can hear 2232 01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:44,320 the vacuum is going but a little bit 2233 01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:47,520 she's vacuuming up a stuff and i go 2234 01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:50,639 well we're on here she goes i don't know 2235 01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,719 these crazy people they threw their 2236 01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:54,400 computers at the wall 2237 01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,400 and i looked at the wall and the wall is 2238 01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:57,920 all dented 2239 01:43:01,030 --> 01:43:00,400 and i'm looking under my feet and there 2240 01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:01,040 are like 2241 01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:04,800 pieces of of um you know motherboard you 2242 01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:05,199 know 2243 01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:08,880 you can see the soldering this green 2244 01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:11,600 stuff green plastic with the soldering 2245 01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:14,960 in little teeny teeny pieces 2246 01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:17,840 and i mean it's all over there's just 2247 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,320 crap 2248 01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:20,560 all over and there's like holes in the 2249 01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:21,440 wall 2250 01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,280 from where they had thrown their 2251 01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:25,280 computers 2252 01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:28,719 that's crazy and what what year was 2253 01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:31,920 was this what do you remember yeah 2254 01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:34,960 was it 95 98 2255 01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:36,880 yeah that's strange because like not a 2256 01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:38,880 lot of people had computers for so for 2257 01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:40,000 them to like destroy 2258 01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:41,600 these things had been like a huge 2259 01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:43,040 statement and 2260 01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:46,320 um and they 2261 01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:48,639 and then the other thing is in the same 2262 01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:49,760 room which was 2263 01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:53,119 the formal dining room they had boxes 2264 01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:53,520 and 2265 01:44:01,470 --> 01:43:57,760 boxes of boxes of 2266 01:44:02,709 --> 01:44:01,480 things like uh foot massagers and head 2267 01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:02,719 massagers 2268 01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:11,109 another woman came through and she goes 2269 01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:13,280 oh yeah i asked about that yesterday too 2270 01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:14,560 apparently 2271 01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:17,920 they sat here and watched their 2272 01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:18,960 computers 2273 01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:22,480 24 7 and so it would 2274 01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:25,600 cause fatigue in their neck and arms 2275 01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:29,600 legs so they had these things to massage 2276 01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:31,119 them so they can keep 2277 01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:34,320 working what were they working on man i 2278 01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:35,600 know that makes you wonder like 2279 01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:38,560 what was on those computers following 2280 01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:40,880 hell bob 2281 01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:44,400 and uh so then i walked through it i saw 2282 01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:46,639 the bedrooms where they had 2283 01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:50,159 all passed away but the creepiest thing 2284 01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:53,520 was um i asked to use the restroom and 2285 01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:54,719 by this time 2286 01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:57,040 it's almost eight o'clock it's almost 2287 01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:58,000 time you know 2288 01:45:02,149 --> 01:44:59,920 people are starting to line up outside 2289 01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:02,159 i've already got a pile 2290 01:45:09,590 --> 01:45:05,600 of stuff i'm gonna buy 2291 01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:09,600 and uh but i'm in the bathroom 2292 01:45:16,149 --> 01:45:13,040 and uh i'm looking around 2293 01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:16,159 and i look inside the 2294 01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:19,360 the medicine cabinet and 2295 01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:23,840 when i saw you know all of these 2296 01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:28,000 pain pills and killers and 2297 01:45:35,109 --> 01:45:31,760 aspirin and tylenol and all you knows 2298 01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:35,119 like it was packed full of painkillers 2299 01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:38,639 and tylenol and all of baby aspirin 2300 01:45:42,550 --> 01:45:42,159 everything and i think god that's so 2301 01:45:45,830 --> 01:45:42,560 weird 2302 01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:45,840 and i closed the 2303 01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:48,960 the mirror this mirrored 2304 01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:52,639 cabinet and in the mirror 2305 01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:55,920 behind me i saw 2306 01:46:04,149 --> 01:45:59,520 this um asian looking guy 2307 01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:04,159 staring at me and i got 2308 01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:07,760 so afraid what like i could feel 2309 01:46:13,430 --> 01:46:11,920 his fear i turned around and there was 2310 01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:13,440 nobody there 2311 01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:20,719 could feel the fear from the bottom of 2312 01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:22,960 my toes to the top of my head 2313 01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:26,000 now looking into this i find 2314 01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:29,119 out that these guys 2315 01:46:33,189 --> 01:46:32,320 were drugged they had a nice dinner they 2316 01:46:35,990 --> 01:46:33,199 had 2317 01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:36,000 a dessert which you know of course they 2318 01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:37,520 did because 2319 01:46:42,310 --> 01:46:41,520 candy candy around but they had some 2320 01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:42,320 sort of 2321 01:46:46,790 --> 01:46:44,400 i don't know soft-serve ice cream or 2322 01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:46,800 something that was laced 2323 01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:49,600 uh was uh something that made them fall 2324 01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:51,360 asleep 2325 01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:59,199 and they were sleeping in i mean you 2326 01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:00,560 know immediately 2327 01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:02,560 and went down for the count they're 2328 01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:05,280 because they're still in their clothes 2329 01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:08,400 they were tied up 2330 01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:13,040 and they had a bag over their head 2331 01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:16,159 and the bag was tied onto 2332 01:47:23,669 --> 01:47:19,679 that's not suicide that's murder yeah 2333 01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:23,679 you can't tie yourself up put a bag over 2334 01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:24,560 your head 2335 01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:28,560 tie the bag and be a suicide 2336 01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:32,400 that's murder yeah that's cool clearly 2337 01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:35,760 murder and when i started talking to 2338 01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:38,159 you know again this is about five 2339 01:47:41,990 --> 01:47:39,600 minutes to eight 2340 01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:42,000 i started talking to a neighbor who 2341 01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:43,760 happened to stop by 2342 01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:47,280 and she said yes the morning that they 2343 01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:50,400 you know after they were killed they saw 2344 01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:50,960 these 2345 01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:55,360 four white fans leave the area 2346 01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:58,639 and uh they thought that 2347 01:48:02,950 --> 01:48:00,480 these guys were leaving they were 2348 01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:02,960 totally surprised 2349 01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:06,239 um and they had government plates 2350 01:48:13,030 --> 01:48:10,480 whoa oh my gosh 2351 01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:13,040 with government plates and these guys 2352 01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:14,960 were murdered 2353 01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:18,080 whoa somebody put bags over 2354 01:48:24,629 --> 01:48:21,600 their head and uh you know and they 2355 01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:24,639 they called it uh you know 2356 01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:28,560 they called all these these things so 2357 01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:31,119 i you know when they say the heavens 2358 01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:32,480 gave suicide 2359 01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:34,560 and i have to tell you you know there 2360 01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:36,480 was no suicide there was a murder 2361 01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:39,920 wow so so the the argument that you 2362 01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:41,840 overheard like don't do this don't do 2363 01:48:44,470 --> 01:48:43,679 this i wonder if it had anything to do 2364 01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:44,480 with 2365 01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:48,560 government or whatever entity this 2366 01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:50,560 shadow organization that says hey this 2367 01:48:52,629 --> 01:48:50,960 this 2368 01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,639 organization is getting too close to 2369 01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:55,040 something don't sell them out you know 2370 01:48:59,590 --> 01:48:55,440 don't 2371 01:49:01,109 --> 01:48:59,600 them go through with it or 2372 01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:01,119 i don't know you can take it in so many 2373 01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:04,480 different ways i saw bob dean 2374 01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:07,679 at the international ufo congress in 2375 01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:10,800 phoenix um this is when it was at 2376 01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:11,280 fountain 2377 01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:14,719 hills so and uh 2378 01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:17,520 it was probably his last time that he 2379 01:49:21,910 --> 01:49:18,400 was there 2380 01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:21,920 and um he was getting pretty drunk 2381 01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:25,360 and drinking his whiskey and i asked him 2382 01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:27,440 about it 2383 01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:31,040 and uh he and bob dean didn't want to 2384 01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:32,960 talk about it but he was very 2385 01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:36,159 agitated to the point where uh carrie 2386 01:49:40,870 --> 01:49:38,000 cassidy came over 2387 01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,880 and told me asked me not to ask him any 2388 01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:42,800 more questions wow 2389 01:49:49,510 --> 01:49:45,920 sensitive subject yeah yeah 2390 01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:49,520 definitely wow so whatever 2391 01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:52,159 whatever happened we'll just really 2392 01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:52,880 never know 2393 01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:56,000 but um yeah honestly there 2394 01:50:04,229 --> 01:50:00,000 was something pretty weird about the 2395 01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:04,239 the whole thing yeah that whole 2396 01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:08,239 yeah i wonder has there been any 2397 01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:11,520 anybody else that have has come out to 2398 01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:14,000 to bring light of any of the such of the 2399 01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:15,119 these details 2400 01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:17,679 i mean i've i haven't really looked into 2401 01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,159 it too 2402 01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:19,920 too much but i did watch like a document 2403 01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:21,760 a short documentary over the heavens 2404 01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,320 gate 2405 01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:24,400 yeah thing and it didn't say anything 2406 01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:25,679 about a conspiracy 2407 01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:28,400 or or anything like that so this is like 2408 01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:29,920 brand new information which 2409 01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:32,719 like you know i wonder i mean you can't 2410 01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:34,960 be the only person to be some kind of 2411 01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:36,880 you know connected to this or seen the 2412 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,159 back st 2413 01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:40,480 the background of of some of this stuff 2414 01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:41,760 like who who else 2415 01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:43,679 knows yeah who else knows about this 2416 01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:44,800 yeah that's awesome 2417 01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:47,520 yeah well i think curie knows and i 2418 01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:49,360 think john david morton knows 2419 01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:52,560 sean david morton is still in in jail 2420 01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:56,000 he's got cancer he's asking to be 2421 01:51:01,589 --> 01:50:59,199 released you know right after this whole 2422 01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:01,599 the whole heavenscape thing they came up 2423 01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:03,520 and said that he was 2424 01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:07,119 scamming people and even though people 2425 01:51:11,669 --> 01:51:09,119 people invested with him and they made 2426 01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:11,679 money and then there was one investment 2427 01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:13,440 that they made and they didn't make 2428 01:51:15,910 --> 01:51:15,280 money and they arrested sean david 2429 01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:15,920 morton 2430 01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:19,440 and his wife and put him into jail 2431 01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:22,960 and uh so he's still in jail to this day 2432 01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:26,239 i have a sneaking suspicion 2433 01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:30,960 that um he knows things that 2434 01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:34,000 um you know the government 2435 01:51:40,070 --> 01:51:37,440 just doesn't want to go out and i think 2436 01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:40,080 that carrie cassidy likely knows and 2437 01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:41,760 she's smart enough to keep her mouth 2438 01:51:46,629 --> 01:51:43,119 shut 2439 01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:46,639 yeah yeah you have to you know and i 2440 01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:47,199 don't know 2441 01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:50,800 anything all i can do is uh yeah i saw 2442 01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:52,159 this i saw that 2443 01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,119 and conjecture and you know but 2444 01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:57,119 everything that i saw 2445 01:52:01,430 --> 01:52:00,159 uh particularly the day of their estates 2446 01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:01,440 now 2447 01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:05,119 uh and the people that i talked to 2448 01:52:09,750 --> 01:52:06,880 with the neighbors saying that there 2449 01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:09,760 were four vans that left 2450 01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:12,719 uh you know earlier morning where they 2451 01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:13,520 were found 2452 01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:15,520 and they all had government plates and 2453 01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:17,280 then what the [\h__\h] 2454 01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:20,560 yeah seriously excuse me oh [\h__\h] we cuss 2455 01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:24,790 no that's definitely a what the [\h__\h] 2456 01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:26,480 kind of a moment that's a 2457 01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:28,320 that's a story you can use that because 2458 01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:30,400 that's insane 2459 01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:33,840 man i mean but i mean you look at 2460 01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:36,800 you look at these types of things uh 2461 01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:37,199 these 2462 01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:40,239 pop up 2463 01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:42,719 you know and and and government 2464 01:52:46,709 --> 01:52:44,239 involvement in them 2465 01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:46,719 and they usually don't end very well you 2466 01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:48,320 know uh 2467 01:52:52,149 --> 01:52:50,080 maybe this was just kind of one of those 2468 01:52:53,430 --> 01:52:52,159 like hey let's be hush-hush about us and 2469 01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:53,440 nobody knows it was us 2470 01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:56,159 this time you know i mean you look at 2471 01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:58,159 waco and stuff and it's like dude i mean 2472 01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:59,679 anytime the government gets involved in 2473 01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,280 stuff like this right ruby ridge 2474 01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:03,040 i think i'd miss i mean i spoke earlier 2475 01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:04,800 is the branch davidian the waco yeah 2476 01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:05,119 okay 2477 01:53:09,189 --> 01:53:08,080 yeah yeah i confused the two uh yeah man 2478 01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:09,199 yeah that's just that's 2479 01:53:12,310 --> 01:53:11,280 insane but yeah that's a good point 2480 01:53:13,910 --> 01:53:12,320 because what is 2481 01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:13,920 what do you think there there's always a 2482 01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:15,599 connection like i guess 2483 01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:18,000 just i guess looking at these two the 2484 01:53:20,470 --> 01:53:18,880 branch davidian 2485 01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:20,480 i mean i'm just fresh on my mind because 2486 01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:22,639 of the netflix special but 2487 01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:26,320 yeah the the de or the fbi like 2488 01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:29,360 it obviously made some bad choices you 2489 01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:29,840 know where 2490 01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:33,280 whether those were just human error or 2491 01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:36,480 stop you there joe because i remember 2492 01:53:40,149 --> 01:53:39,280 i you know remember i'm old so i 2493 01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:40,159 remember 2494 01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:43,360 the waco thing yeah i was very 2495 01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:46,480 involved with uh 2496 01:53:55,189 --> 01:53:50,560 with government at the time um i was 2497 01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:55,199 at the uh again i did a lot of 2498 01:53:59,750 --> 01:53:58,080 writing back in the day and i worked for 2499 01:54:02,950 --> 01:53:59,760 the los angeles times 2500 01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,960 as a content writer i you know i never 2501 01:54:07,270 --> 01:54:04,639 got a byline but 2502 01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:07,280 i'd go out and i would get information 2503 01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:09,599 about stuff and send it back 2504 01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:13,679 and the thing about uh because i watched 2505 01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:17,280 the uh netflix special as well yeah 2506 01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:21,040 and they did not include the hillary 2507 01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:22,159 clinton 2508 01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:25,520 connection oh my god please tell me this 2509 01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:29,119 yes please tell me about this oh my gosh 2510 01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:32,719 oh yeah janet reno was on the phone with 2511 01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:33,920 hillary clinton 2512 01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:38,000 every damn day the waco thing 2513 01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,560 no wonder they all died and uh it was 2514 01:54:44,870 --> 01:54:41,840 hillary clinton 2515 01:54:48,830 --> 01:54:44,880 calling the shots wow 2516 01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:48,840 and i you know i remember i 2517 01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:52,400 i read the articles 2518 01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:55,520 i interviewed a certain amount of people 2519 01:55:01,109 --> 01:54:58,560 if this was all on janet reno and 2520 01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:01,119 hillary clinton and the way they handled 2521 01:55:05,189 --> 01:55:02,239 it 2522 01:55:05,830 --> 01:55:05,199 nobody had to die they're the ones that 2523 01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:05,840 said 2524 01:55:11,830 --> 01:55:09,599 fire absolutely light it up yeah 2525 01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:11,840 absolutely and i mean that it's really 2526 01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,639 close to home 2527 01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:15,520 to us because i mean from from like from 2528 01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:17,119 our hometown you know that's 2529 01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:20,480 maybe 45 minutes maybe an hour and ben's 2530 01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,760 uh other town that he he lived in 2531 01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:25,440 yeah you know that's like 20 minutes 2532 01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:26,960 away yeah you know it's 2533 01:55:30,870 --> 01:55:28,960 right it's right next to us we live 2534 01:55:34,310 --> 01:55:30,880 right next to that area 2535 01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:34,320 yeah yeah we were babies when it 2536 01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:35,760 happened but 2537 01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:38,960 yeah and i was you know 2538 01:55:47,510 --> 01:55:42,320 in the middle of my uh 2539 01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:47,520 uh being let's see i went to berkeley 2540 01:55:52,149 --> 01:55:50,080 i studied political science i was 2541 01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:52,159 getting my master's degree 2542 01:55:57,990 --> 01:55:55,920 i you know got a job working 2543 01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:58,000 with the mayor's department i was a 2544 01:56:03,030 --> 01:55:59,760 legislative writer i did an 2545 01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:03,040 internship under governor brown in the 2546 01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:05,520 state capitol of california 2547 01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:09,840 and i i was all over it 2548 01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:15,830 you know i i think about the things that 2549 01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:17,679 happened back then 2550 01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:19,840 and the and the way that it's affecting 2551 01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:21,119 our country today 2552 01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:24,560 and there is just so much that is 2553 01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:29,199 not mentioned or retold so i want you to 2554 01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:32,880 know just know for your own satisfaction 2555 01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:36,719 that that netflix show about waco 2556 01:56:44,149 --> 01:56:40,239 is a fairy tale and so is 2557 01:56:44,870 --> 01:56:44,159 narcos a fairy tale that makes sense 2558 01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:44,880 yeah did 2559 01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:47,280 not happen like that yeah that makes 2560 01:56:51,189 --> 01:56:48,239 sense absolutely 2561 01:56:51,669 --> 01:56:51,199 did not happen and if they wanna you 2562 01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:51,679 know 2563 01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:55,040 yeah there's a lot of truth but there's 2564 01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:56,880 but they're lying because they're not 2565 01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:58,800 telling the entire truth 2566 01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:00,239 right well yeah i mean they're doing 2567 01:57:03,109 --> 01:57:01,840 everything they can to cover their own 2568 01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:03,119 asses because nobody 2569 01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,360 you know that was there survived i mean 2570 01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:07,040 there's a few survivors right don't get 2571 01:57:10,229 --> 01:57:08,400 me wrong but 2572 01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:10,239 for the most part nobody can really tell 2573 01:57:15,910 --> 01:57:12,639 the correct story 2574 01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:15,920 oh no no and i remember the day that 2575 01:57:20,589 --> 01:57:16,400 they 2576 01:57:24,149 --> 01:57:20,599 lit it up and i thought are these people 2577 01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:24,159 insane yes the answer is yes murdering 2578 01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:27,920 these people and you know they didn't 2579 01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:30,159 even go into the background of the 2580 01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:32,639 branch deviants and their political 2581 01:57:37,990 --> 01:57:34,400 connections on that either 2582 01:57:41,109 --> 01:57:38,000 and i understand that because you know 2583 01:57:43,510 --> 01:57:41,119 you can sit there and and tell a story 2584 01:57:44,790 --> 01:57:43,520 a hundred different ways from a hundred 2585 01:57:47,830 --> 01:57:44,800 different 2586 01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:47,840 viewpoints but in 2587 01:57:52,149 --> 01:57:51,360 you know the bottom line is that was a 2588 01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:52,159 clinton 2589 01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:56,080 cabal food paw or maybe wasn't a food 2590 01:58:01,109 --> 01:57:58,080 pup maybe that's what she's all about 2591 01:58:02,709 --> 01:58:01,119 it's always been all about one of those 2592 01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:02,719 fallen angels 2593 01:58:06,229 --> 01:58:05,520 i believe that and i believe that for 2594 01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:06,239 sure 2595 01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:09,520 she's such an evil person yeah it seems 2596 01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:10,159 like i'm 2597 01:58:16,310 --> 01:58:13,840 just uh i'm not surprised i 2598 01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:16,320 i'm not surprised that she was a part of 2599 01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:17,599 it you know 2600 01:58:22,550 --> 01:58:20,960 that doesn't surprise yeah like it's 2601 01:58:25,109 --> 01:58:22,560 mind-blowing because i've never heard it 2602 01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:25,119 i've never i am not surprised at all 2603 01:58:29,589 --> 01:58:26,000 very new to me 2604 01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:29,599 yeah oh my goodness you should just go 2605 01:58:36,229 --> 01:58:32,800 you know sometimes if if you can afford 2606 01:58:39,589 --> 01:58:36,239 a couple of dollars a month to go on the 2607 01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:39,599 la times and you know join 2608 01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:43,440 so that you can go back into their 2609 01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:46,639 uh archives archives and 2610 01:58:49,910 --> 01:58:49,520 and just follow the story yeah there was 2611 01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:49,920 uh 2612 01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:53,520 you know it it was a huge story 2613 01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:57,199 and they had 15 writers on it 2614 01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:01,119 um you know they followed it 2615 01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:04,719 and that was back in the day when 2616 01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:08,080 you couldn't really bribe uh 2617 01:59:12,070 --> 01:59:11,040 journalists everybody wanted to be right 2618 01:59:15,510 --> 01:59:12,080 uh 2619 01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:15,520 you know integrity you know 2620 01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:18,800 no they wanted they wanted they wanted 2621 01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:19,920 to be 2622 01:59:23,669 --> 01:59:22,239 well known and have a movie after them 2623 01:59:26,709 --> 01:59:23,679 for exposing 2624 01:59:30,070 --> 01:59:26,719 some dirty deed from a a 2625 01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:30,080 politician the same way as woodward and 2626 01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:32,480 bernstein and all the presidents men 2627 01:59:35,990 --> 01:59:34,400 yeah good it's a little different story 2628 01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:36,000 i guess nowadays so 2629 01:59:41,189 --> 01:59:39,040 yeah and yeah now it's uh 2630 01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:41,199 you know the opposite side said well 2631 01:59:44,709 --> 01:59:42,320 we're never going to have 2632 01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:44,719 all the president's men ever ever again 2633 01:59:47,990 --> 01:59:46,320 we're just going to 2634 01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,000 we're going to nip it in the bud we're 2635 01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:50,159 going to buy them out before 2636 01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:52,960 you know they get that far or or it's 2637 01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:53,360 the 2638 01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:55,920 trump administration not allowing 2639 01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:56,560 certain 2640 02:00:00,310 --> 01:59:58,800 like news outlets to be i don't think 2641 02:00:03,669 --> 02:00:00,320 there's anything to do 2642 02:00:06,629 --> 02:00:03,679 with the trumps uh i don't i this is 2643 02:00:13,589 --> 02:00:10,070 about what the illuminati 2644 02:00:14,470 --> 02:00:13,599 and uh these people that are the fallen 2645 02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:14,480 angels 2646 02:00:22,070 --> 02:00:18,400 that you know are really really evil 2647 02:00:25,990 --> 02:00:22,080 people they're they're real you know you 2648 02:00:29,430 --> 02:00:26,000 get jim mars book about the illuminati 2649 02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:29,440 oh yeah yeah yeah and read that 2650 02:00:36,709 --> 02:00:32,960 then that explains everything 2651 02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:36,719 that's going on and uh 2652 02:00:43,589 --> 02:00:40,159 you know patty grier 2653 02:00:46,870 --> 02:00:43,599 might have been right about the 2654 02:00:50,950 --> 02:00:46,880 um the deep ops and 2655 02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:50,960 the uh weapons that they were using 2656 02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:52,000 against the people 2657 02:00:58,310 --> 02:00:55,280 that were in the ufo community 2658 02:00:58,790 --> 02:00:58,320 they're all gathered at one place and 2659 02:01:01,830 --> 02:00:58,800 you 2660 02:01:05,270 --> 02:01:01,840 get them 2661 02:01:08,550 --> 02:01:05,280 all and you know patty had 2662 02:01:12,149 --> 02:01:08,560 severe health issues uh 2663 02:01:16,229 --> 02:01:12,159 jim mars died stanton friedman 2664 02:01:19,750 --> 02:01:16,239 passed away uh rosemary ellen guiley 2665 02:01:22,070 --> 02:01:19,760 passed away yeah you know these were all 2666 02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:22,080 people that when we saw them at the 2667 02:01:26,149 --> 02:01:25,119 um contact in the desert they were all 2668 02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:26,159 very healthy 2669 02:01:33,589 --> 02:01:29,360 they are all you know just 2670 02:01:35,830 --> 02:01:33,599 totally totally on and uh 2671 02:01:37,669 --> 02:01:35,840 you know they i know they've tried to 2672 02:01:41,109 --> 02:01:37,679 get to michael challenger 2673 02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:41,119 about you know ubuntu they basically 2674 02:01:46,390 --> 02:01:44,320 told them shut up yeah 2675 02:01:53,910 --> 02:01:46,400 and they couldn't do anything because he 2676 02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:57,990 there's a lot of um 2677 02:02:03,669 --> 02:02:01,199 layers you know be careful 2678 02:02:05,910 --> 02:02:03,679 like i said you're staring into the 2679 02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:05,920 abyss you're staring into the bucket and 2680 02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:07,199 then staring back 2681 02:02:12,550 --> 02:02:09,360 yeah yeah i love what you said about the 2682 02:02:16,149 --> 02:02:12,560 deeper you go into it 2683 02:02:19,430 --> 02:02:16,159 the crazier it gets and 2684 02:02:25,589 --> 02:02:23,589 anybody that's talking these days are 2685 02:02:27,589 --> 02:02:25,599 they're either getting discredited 2686 02:02:31,910 --> 02:02:27,599 they're getting shamed 2687 02:02:33,470 --> 02:02:31,920 uh i mean look at tom delong with a ttsa 2688 02:02:37,750 --> 02:02:33,480 they're now calling it an 2689 02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:37,760 entertainment company so did ttfa 2690 02:02:42,149 --> 02:02:41,599 really enlighten the world about ufos 2691 02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:42,159 and 2692 02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:46,719 yes these tick tacks are real 2693 02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:48,960 is that is that really real because it's 2694 02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:51,360 coming from an entertainment company 2695 02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:53,679 right yeah well the double-edged sword 2696 02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:54,960 there is again like 2697 02:02:59,109 --> 02:02:57,920 are we maybe that's just a front because 2698 02:03:00,229 --> 02:02:59,119 you know as long as you say it's 2699 02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:00,239 entertainment or 2700 02:03:03,669 --> 02:03:02,800 science fiction you can pretty much say 2701 02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:03,679 it's plausible 2702 02:03:09,669 --> 02:03:06,960 deniability thank you yep exactly 2703 02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:09,679 exactly and that's you know the same 2704 02:03:14,229 --> 02:03:10,159 thing 2705 02:03:17,350 --> 02:03:14,239 when people come here and to sedona 2706 02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:17,360 and they go out with melinda 2707 02:03:21,910 --> 02:03:20,639 or they have a psychic reading with 2708 02:03:25,350 --> 02:03:21,920 somebody 2709 02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:25,360 and they basically 2710 02:03:29,189 --> 02:03:28,080 just say this is for entertainment only 2711 02:03:32,550 --> 02:03:29,199 yeah that way 2712 02:03:34,550 --> 02:03:32,560 you can't go back to them and say 2713 02:03:36,470 --> 02:03:34,560 well now frankie reading you told me i 2714 02:03:37,109 --> 02:03:36,480 was going to win a million dollars and i 2715 02:03:39,270 --> 02:03:37,119 spent 2716 02:03:40,390 --> 02:03:39,280 you know i maxed out my credit cards and 2717 02:03:44,229 --> 02:03:40,400 that's all your fault 2718 02:03:46,470 --> 02:03:44,239 oh yeah yeah and uh 2719 02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:46,480 you know you said that that i would be 2720 02:03:51,109 --> 02:03:47,679 healed and i'm not 2721 02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:51,119 healed so i'm suing you and 2722 02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:54,880 you know come on yeah yeah that's 2723 02:03:58,550 --> 02:03:57,199 that's it's you know that's kind of hit 2724 02:04:00,550 --> 02:03:58,560 or miss you know 2725 02:04:01,669 --> 02:04:00,560 when it comes to that stuff i i i 2726 02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:01,679 wouldn't i mean 2727 02:04:04,629 --> 02:04:03,360 why would you max out your credit card 2728 02:04:06,069 --> 02:04:04,639 you know that just sounds like a bad 2729 02:04:09,189 --> 02:04:06,079 idea in general 2730 02:04:12,310 --> 02:04:09,199 you know but 2731 02:04:13,910 --> 02:04:12,320 you oh as far as maxing out the credit 2732 02:04:14,229 --> 02:04:13,920 cards you're supposed to do that right 2733 02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:14,239 now 2734 02:04:18,470 --> 02:04:16,639 that's what you're supposed to do before 2735 02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:18,480 we move on to a different monetary 2736 02:04:21,109 --> 02:04:19,040 system 2737 02:04:22,229 --> 02:04:21,119 because how can how can you sit in your 2738 02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:22,239 house and not 2739 02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:25,679 work and survive if you're not 2740 02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:29,520 using your credit card to order out food 2741 02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:32,960 groceries or buy diapers or you know 2742 02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:36,320 whatever it is yeah yeah and 2743 02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:39,599 uh they're going to try 2744 02:04:47,109 --> 02:04:43,280 to you know again when you 2745 02:04:49,109 --> 02:04:47,119 go to these ets and they do these creepy 2746 02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:49,119 experiments if you have 2747 02:04:55,510 --> 02:04:52,320 the nerve to ask them questions they 2748 02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:55,520 will answer and back in the day i did 2749 02:04:57,669 --> 02:04:57,280 not know what they were talking about 2750 02:05:00,870 --> 02:04:57,679 but 2751 02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:00,880 now i do that's that's awesome 2752 02:05:08,550 --> 02:05:04,480 and they're going to try to keep 2753 02:05:11,830 --> 02:05:08,560 the economy shut down until 2754 02:05:14,069 --> 02:05:11,840 february wow and 2755 02:05:14,950 --> 02:05:14,079 they're going to try to keep you in your 2756 02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:14,960 house 2757 02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:18,000 until after christmas i'm not sure 2758 02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:22,800 what this is about but five years ago 2759 02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:26,400 the queen said 2760 02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:29,440 on bbc 2761 02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:33,280 live tv which is all now scrubbed now 2762 02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:36,880 but i remember because you know i'm old 2763 02:05:41,109 --> 02:05:39,840 and it was only five years ago she said 2764 02:05:44,870 --> 02:05:41,119 enjoy your last 2765 02:05:48,069 --> 02:05:44,880 christmas i believe 2766 02:05:52,069 --> 02:05:48,079 that this was the telling the 2767 02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:52,079 people five years ago and you know and 2768 02:05:55,030 --> 02:05:52,800 people 2769 02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:55,040 you know first they were really alarmed 2770 02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:56,560 but you know one year 2771 02:06:00,310 --> 02:05:58,960 and nothing happened no no nothing 2772 02:06:00,790 --> 02:06:00,320 happened nothing happened nothing 2773 02:06:03,750 --> 02:06:00,800 happened 2774 02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:03,760 but you know what it takes a long time 2775 02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:04,800 to plan 2776 02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:07,920 world war iii in the apocalypse 2777 02:06:16,629 --> 02:06:12,880 and just recently the queen 2778 02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:16,639 showed up to address her 2779 02:06:24,069 --> 02:06:20,239 people in the uk 2780 02:06:24,950 --> 02:06:24,079 and of canada she wasn't wearing her 2781 02:06:27,350 --> 02:06:24,960 crown 2782 02:06:28,069 --> 02:06:27,360 right yeah they took the crest off of 2783 02:06:30,310 --> 02:06:28,079 the front 2784 02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:30,320 gate just about to ask you what's 2785 02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:31,920 telling me about that yeah 2786 02:06:36,550 --> 02:06:35,360 yes yeah yeah and and so you know this 2787 02:06:40,709 --> 02:06:36,560 is more 2788 02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:40,719 it's it's connected to the ets in a way 2789 02:06:44,310 --> 02:06:43,360 again through the giants and the 2790 02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:44,320 nephilim 2791 02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:47,560 and the ancient 2792 02:06:53,750 --> 02:06:50,560 societies and uh 2793 02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:53,760 you know them believing that they 2794 02:06:59,270 --> 02:06:57,199 are blood relationship with the family 2795 02:07:02,870 --> 02:06:59,280 of jesus christ 2796 02:07:03,669 --> 02:07:02,880 yes our people there are people on this 2797 02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:03,679 planet 2798 02:07:11,189 --> 02:07:06,880 there are that have uh 2799 02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:11,199 dna from from christ because we all know 2800 02:07:16,069 --> 02:07:12,000 that he didn't 2801 02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:16,079 die uh you ever heard of 2802 02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:19,840 glenn uh of uh i think his name is glenn 2803 02:07:28,390 --> 02:07:23,440 campbell yeah i know blue campbell yeah 2804 02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:31,669 uh campbell 2805 02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:34,800 uh agnostic training 2806 02:07:43,430 --> 02:07:40,400 and he died probably 15 years ago 2807 02:07:50,069 --> 02:07:46,790 oh um maybe it's kimble not campbell 2808 02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:50,079 oh yeah i don't know a kimbo 2809 02:07:56,149 --> 02:07:53,119 yeah canyon bale and i met 2810 02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:56,159 a course being a photographer and all of 2811 02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:56,560 that 2812 02:08:02,629 --> 02:07:59,679 i met him being the photographer of 2813 02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:02,639 international ufo congress about 15 2814 02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:04,000 years ago 2815 02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:08,960 and uh he was he had a 2816 02:08:15,510 --> 02:08:12,159 problem with his kidney but he 2817 02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:15,520 had all this esoteric 2818 02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:19,599 learning and that he had gotten from a 2819 02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:22,560 secret society and he 2820 02:08:26,790 --> 02:08:25,760 is so he had kimball college you should 2821 02:08:29,589 --> 02:08:26,800 look that up on 2822 02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:29,599 google kimball college if they have any 2823 02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:30,079 of the 2824 02:08:34,830 --> 02:08:34,000 information about kimball college this 2825 02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:34,840 is where 2826 02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:37,760 um uh even david 2827 02:08:49,830 --> 02:08:46,950 the old bloodlines and stuff yeah so 2828 02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:49,840 so anyway yeah i met him i had lunch 2829 02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:50,960 with him he was a 2830 02:08:57,350 --> 02:08:54,719 big fan and shortly after 2831 02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:57,360 he said i don't do conferences i'm not 2832 02:09:00,470 --> 02:08:59,440 not speaking anymore i'm not doing that 2833 02:09:03,589 --> 02:09:00,480 anymore 2834 02:09:06,149 --> 02:09:03,599 it's it's not safe for me but 2835 02:09:08,709 --> 02:09:06,159 bob brown talked him into coming to the 2836 02:09:11,030 --> 02:09:08,719 international ufo congress 2837 02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:11,040 like i said it's got to be 15 years ago 2838 02:09:16,790 --> 02:09:13,280 yeah and 2839 02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:16,800 uh he passed away less than a year later 2840 02:09:22,069 --> 02:09:20,079 wow that's insane so 2841 02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:22,079 have you heard anything about there 2842 02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:23,520 possibly being 2843 02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:26,880 uh a new king of england which is 2844 02:09:30,390 --> 02:09:29,760 this hat yeah joseph gregory hallett a 2845 02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:30,400 friend 2846 02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:38,159 mike bara and jim 2847 02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:41,520 fetzer f-e-t-z-e-r he's been on the show 2848 02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:42,880 yeah 2849 02:09:48,629 --> 02:09:46,719 oh isn't he fabulous oh he is man 2850 02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:48,639 he's super interesting he's one of my 2851 02:09:51,669 --> 02:09:50,000 favorite friends 2852 02:09:53,990 --> 02:09:51,679 and it's hard to get him to speak 2853 02:09:56,709 --> 02:09:54,000 because he's got the speech impediment 2854 02:09:58,790 --> 02:09:56,719 where he stutters 2855 02:09:59,910 --> 02:09:58,800 bothers him a little bit but i didn't 2856 02:10:03,589 --> 02:09:59,920 notice it he's been an 2857 02:10:05,030 --> 02:10:03,599 educator for so many years yeah once 2858 02:10:06,950 --> 02:10:05,040 if you tell him that you're really 2859 02:10:09,350 --> 02:10:06,960 interested in it he throws 2860 02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:09,360 out his speech impediment he just goes 2861 02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:11,199 for it yeah 2862 02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:14,320 but he is like a fabulous guy 2863 02:10:22,069 --> 02:10:19,280 um but mike barra and melinda leslie 2864 02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:22,079 were really good friends for many many 2865 02:10:25,910 --> 02:10:23,119 years and 2866 02:10:27,589 --> 02:10:25,920 melinda and i have been friends for like 2867 02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:27,599 30 years 2868 02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:39,189 maybe 2008 2009 she also introduced me 2869 02:10:43,189 --> 02:10:39,760 to 2870 02:10:45,830 --> 02:10:43,199 um uh dr farrell 2871 02:10:46,229 --> 02:10:45,840 i you know him um i don't think i know 2872 02:10:49,589 --> 02:10:46,239 him 2873 02:10:52,709 --> 02:10:49,599 no uh sal uh 2874 02:10:56,310 --> 02:10:52,719 gosh he does he does a lot of uh uh 2875 02:11:01,350 --> 02:10:56,320 talks with uh katherine austin's sits 2876 02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:05,030 anyway they 2877 02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:08,950 when i was talking to mike and jim 2878 02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:12,560 they said oh yeah you gotta look up our 2879 02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:16,400 uh our uh podcast 2880 02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:20,159 we did about the king of england and jim 2881 02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:21,840 fetzer's all over it 2882 02:11:28,390 --> 02:11:24,880 yeah it is just all over it 2883 02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:28,400 and he know jim fetzer is 2884 02:11:35,669 --> 02:11:32,560 friends with the guy who should be king 2885 02:11:38,870 --> 02:11:35,679 yeah or has all of the 2886 02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:38,880 credentials and everything yeah uh 2887 02:11:41,990 --> 02:11:40,639 joseph and they've been friends for like 2888 02:11:46,069 --> 02:11:42,000 25 years 2889 02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:46,079 so go on um it's joseph gregory hallett 2890 02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:46,639 right yeah 2891 02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:48,880 he's supposedly supposed to be the new 2892 02:11:54,870 --> 02:11:49,679 uh 2893 02:12:02,790 --> 02:11:59,430 and he interviewed him on his show 2894 02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:02,800 and you can see it on youtube and it's 2895 02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:04,880 it's fairly new it seems like i've seen 2896 02:12:11,350 --> 02:12:07,440 it like maybe a month ago yeah yeah it's 2897 02:12:14,470 --> 02:12:11,360 really new it really is yeah and uh 2898 02:12:18,830 --> 02:12:14,480 and that's weird and also weird 2899 02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:18,840 is what do you think is jfk 2900 02:12:26,149 --> 02:12:22,480 alive i've heard that too yes 2901 02:12:32,390 --> 02:12:29,910 he has been spotted and he's got this 2902 02:12:35,589 --> 02:12:32,400 different name that they use 2903 02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:35,599 but um they you know you know how they 2904 02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:36,000 do 2905 02:12:44,709 --> 02:12:43,189 yeah facial recognition everybody thinks 2906 02:12:48,149 --> 02:12:44,719 that this guy 2907 02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:48,159 that's been showing up is actually jsk 2908 02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:49,199 jr 2909 02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:52,079 yeah wife yeah because they were 2910 02:12:55,189 --> 02:12:52,880 somebody had 2911 02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:55,199 supposedly asked him are you jfk jr and 2912 02:13:00,550 --> 02:12:56,719 he said no 2913 02:13:02,390 --> 02:13:00,560 because if jfk did pass away then that 2914 02:13:03,910 --> 02:13:02,400 makes him the senior now 2915 02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:03,920 so when people ask him if he's the 2916 02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:05,520 junior he says no 2917 02:13:12,629 --> 02:13:09,119 ah tricky question 2918 02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:12,639 yeah junior junior junior junior junior 2919 02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:14,400 yeah no i know i've been i've been 2920 02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:16,079 following this uh 2921 02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:18,159 this story on the new king of england 2922 02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:19,760 and it's been blowing 2923 02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,800 my mind yeah i'm i'm ready to see what's 2924 02:13:26,870 --> 02:13:24,480 gonna happen with it i mean 2925 02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:26,880 it it would be interesting that's for 2926 02:13:31,430 --> 02:13:28,719 sure 2927 02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:31,440 yes yes and what do you think do you 2928 02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:31,760 think 2929 02:13:41,030 --> 02:13:38,560 i mean they 2930 02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:41,040 they even made connections to you know 2931 02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:41,599 the pope 2932 02:13:45,189 --> 02:13:43,520 not being in the vatican but there was a 2933 02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:45,199 video released recently 2934 02:13:48,790 --> 02:13:48,000 of the pope during easter where he 2935 02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:48,800 disappears 2936 02:13:51,990 --> 02:13:50,960 at a frame in a video almost like a 2937 02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:52,000 hologram 2938 02:13:59,189 --> 02:13:57,360 you know to address the people and he 2939 02:14:00,950 --> 02:13:59,199 ended up like when you watch the video 2940 02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:00,960 before he goes out of frame 2941 02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:03,920 he disappears out of the out of the 2942 02:14:06,629 --> 02:14:04,480 video 2943 02:14:07,750 --> 02:14:06,639 so a lot of people are thinking that 2944 02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:07,760 maybe the pope 2945 02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:10,639 and some of his constituents are held up 2946 02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:12,560 somewhere else they've been arrested 2947 02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:15,679 it's a hologram yeah and so i mean 2948 02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:18,560 uh that's it's a really interesting uh 2949 02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:20,000 connection that they've made 2950 02:14:27,030 --> 02:14:23,840 you know well i find it i find it very 2951 02:14:30,149 --> 02:14:27,040 interesting the connection between 2952 02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:30,159 this switch over of the world power 2953 02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:30,560 which 2954 02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:34,400 of course the queen is right um 2955 02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:36,480 i mean we like to pretend like we're the 2956 02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:38,079 world power but we're not 2957 02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:41,199 we take all of our our uh 2958 02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:44,320 direction from the queen right yep 2959 02:14:50,950 --> 02:14:47,920 yep and uh this 2960 02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:50,960 with this uh covid 19 2961 02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:54,320 lockdown mm-hmm par 2962 02:15:01,669 --> 02:14:57,920 you know what the eps told me 2963 02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:01,679 way back in the day and this has got to 2964 02:15:06,310 --> 02:15:03,280 be 2965 02:15:12,550 --> 02:15:06,320 45 years ago now 2966 02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:16,149 when the queen 2967 02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:19,360 falls down and it's 2968 02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:23,760 humpty dumpty that 2969 02:15:33,830 --> 02:15:31,189 interesting i just got chills 2970 02:15:36,069 --> 02:15:33,840 yeah yeah even like the connection 2971 02:15:38,950 --> 02:15:36,079 between like the coronavirus corona 2972 02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:38,960 being latin for crown and it just so 2973 02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:41,520 happened to start around the same time 2974 02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:43,840 it's almost like the pandemic was like 2975 02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:44,880 thrown out there 2976 02:15:50,229 --> 02:15:49,520 world powers could figure out what the 2977 02:15:52,950 --> 02:15:50,239 hell they're 2978 02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:52,960 gonna do with this switch of power you 2979 02:15:58,310 --> 02:15:54,960 know between people i mean it's 2980 02:16:00,790 --> 02:15:58,320 it's there's so many connections 2981 02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:00,800 you know uh yeah most would call it 2982 02:16:04,629 --> 02:16:02,800 conspiracy theory 2983 02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:04,639 but i think if you're not at least 2984 02:16:09,430 --> 02:16:06,639 looking at it then you're not doing 2985 02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:09,440 anybody any favors you know you know so 2986 02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:10,880 i call it conspiracy 2987 02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:14,000 fact because yeah absolutely five 2988 02:16:18,709 --> 02:16:16,880 years ago that this was going to be the 2989 02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:18,719 summer of hell 2990 02:16:25,030 --> 02:16:21,920 and it wasn't in from anything else 2991 02:16:28,310 --> 02:16:25,040 than from just reading the 2992 02:16:29,589 --> 02:16:28,320 headlines and connecting the dots but 2993 02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:29,599 already having 2994 02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:32,800 a leg up of what to look for 2995 02:16:38,709 --> 02:16:36,479 and you know i don't 2996 02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:38,719 i don't know why i was given that 2997 02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:40,240 information 2998 02:16:44,830 --> 02:16:43,439 i i have no idea other than the fact 2999 02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:44,840 that 3000 02:16:51,349 --> 02:16:48,160 maybe um i've got some good 3001 02:16:54,309 --> 02:16:51,359 karma built up so i was able to 3002 02:16:55,750 --> 02:16:54,319 draw my family together at this 3003 02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:55,760 particular time 3004 02:17:00,309 --> 02:16:58,000 yeah in this particular place who knows 3005 02:17:03,589 --> 02:17:00,319 the the small amounts of 3006 02:17:06,070 --> 02:17:03,599 yeah yeah but um 3007 02:17:07,830 --> 02:17:06,080 you're right if you're if you're not 3008 02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:07,840 paying if you're not afraid you're not 3009 02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:09,200 paying attention 3010 02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:11,280 and if you don't think there's not 3011 02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:13,519 there's not a conspiracy 3012 02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:16,080 you're not paying attention absolutely 3013 02:17:20,469 --> 02:17:16,880 and if you think 3014 02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:20,479 you're not being a lied to on a daily 3015 02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:21,439 basis 3016 02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:23,120 you're not paying attention i tell 3017 02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:25,599 somebody that every single day 3018 02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:27,040 they're aligned to you if you don't 3019 02:17:31,349 --> 02:17:29,040 think they're lying to you i got a 3020 02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:31,359 bridge i could sell you 3021 02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:34,639 nice really yeah really every day i've 3022 02:17:39,669 --> 02:17:34,960 got 3023 02:17:44,230 --> 02:17:43,509 yes yeah absolutely and you know the 3024 02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:44,240 thing about 3025 02:17:51,509 --> 02:17:47,359 it is when the um pandemic 3026 02:17:55,190 --> 02:17:51,519 started uh who came out and said 3027 02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:55,200 okay tourism is going to be down 40 3028 02:17:58,790 --> 02:17:56,880 for the year right you're just not going 3029 02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:58,800 to have anybody 3030 02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:01,920 and uh that was like that was it 3031 02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:07,270 from day one of the pandemic sedona 3032 02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:08,559 never shut down 3033 02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:11,599 oh hotels our hotels stayed open 3034 02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:15,280 airbnb stayed open we've had business as 3035 02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:16,800 usual 3036 02:18:23,830 --> 02:18:20,240 with the with the uh minor inconvenience 3037 02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:23,840 of maybe having to wear a mask 3038 02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:27,120 you know something like that or maybe 3039 02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:29,439 somebody doesn't stay away for a day 3040 02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:32,479 yeah but we've had 3041 02:18:39,830 --> 02:18:36,080 a steady stream of people coming here 3042 02:18:44,469 --> 02:18:39,840 from california from colorado 3043 02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:44,479 from nevada and uh you know 3044 02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:46,240 why not go to some place really 3045 02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:48,160 beautiful yeah well there's there's also 3046 02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:49,120 not a lot of 3047 02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:52,000 lot of locals there right so it's kind 3048 02:18:55,589 --> 02:18:52,479 of 3049 02:18:57,669 --> 02:18:55,599 i mean it was just two weeks ago that 3050 02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:57,679 they shut down music 3051 02:19:01,669 --> 02:18:59,519 and they you know all of a sudden you 3052 02:19:04,389 --> 02:19:01,679 couldn't have dancing 3053 02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:04,399 and it has been okay up until two weeks 3054 02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:05,040 ago 3055 02:19:10,150 --> 02:19:08,080 that's really strange that it's like 3056 02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:10,160 if you wanted to wear a mask wear a mask 3057 02:19:13,110 --> 02:19:11,519 if you didn't want to wear a mask don't 3058 02:19:17,030 --> 02:19:13,120 wear a mask nobody's gonna 3059 02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:17,040 you know say anything to you yeah until 3060 02:19:23,830 --> 02:19:20,399 you know yesterday yeah i feel like 3061 02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:23,840 in two weeks ago now the governor says 3062 02:19:29,110 --> 02:19:26,559 um okay i'm gonna i'm thinking about 3063 02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:29,120 mandating mass for everybody if you're 3064 02:19:33,910 --> 02:19:31,280 out you've got to wear a mask 3065 02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:33,920 and and it's like oh good thing you're 3066 02:19:38,870 --> 02:19:35,439 doing that now 3067 02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:38,880 yeah and after we've 3068 02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:43,120 you know had this uh 3069 02:19:49,990 --> 02:19:47,519 corona [\h__\h] since uh january 3070 02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:50,000 right really right so you're gonna wait 3071 02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:52,000 six months and then demand that we wear 3072 02:19:55,270 --> 02:19:52,800 a mask 3073 02:19:57,030 --> 02:19:55,280 what the [\h__\h] is wrong yeah yeah good 3074 02:20:00,230 --> 02:19:57,040 job 3075 02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:00,240 seriously oh my god sorry for dropping 3076 02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:02,960 those f words but it really 3077 02:20:06,070 --> 02:20:05,280 pisses me off that people are so 3078 02:20:10,070 --> 02:20:06,080 gullible 3079 02:20:12,469 --> 02:20:10,080 oh me too and of course 3080 02:20:13,990 --> 02:20:12,479 they're frightened who isn't frightened 3081 02:20:19,990 --> 02:20:14,000 who isn't 3082 02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:20,000 about what their children's lives are 3083 02:20:25,270 --> 02:20:21,600 going to be 3084 02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:25,280 um we have a whole 3085 02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:29,040 bunch of parents here they just decided 3086 02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:30,479 to close the school 3087 02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:33,280 and because there's no covet cases in 3088 02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:35,280 sedona they're closing a hospital 3089 02:20:39,830 --> 02:20:38,240 and a and an emergency in the middle of 3090 02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:39,840 the coven when they say that we're 3091 02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:40,800 having the most 3092 02:20:46,150 --> 02:20:44,080 covet cases in the united states 3093 02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:46,160 knife or number two or something yeah 3094 02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:47,120 all these new 3095 02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:50,319 and they're closing the emergency center 3096 02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:52,880 and the hospital here because they're 3097 02:20:57,750 --> 02:20:55,280 bored and they have nothing to do 3098 02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:57,760 and they're close but school because you 3099 02:21:02,309 --> 02:21:00,240 have no students 3100 02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:02,319 yeah it's it's it's terrible and people 3101 02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:03,600 who actually like 3102 02:21:07,990 --> 02:21:06,960 need to go uh to the doctor and need to 3103 02:21:10,870 --> 02:21:08,000 have like you know 3104 02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:10,880 these elective surgeries which are very 3105 02:21:13,990 --> 02:21:12,319 serious surgeries 3106 02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:14,000 they can't get them done because you 3107 02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:16,240 know they've got everything reserved for 3108 02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:17,040 kovid 3109 02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:19,040 and since it didn't happen the way it 3110 02:21:21,429 --> 02:21:20,640 was supposed to then they just closed 3111 02:21:23,429 --> 02:21:21,439 them down 3112 02:21:24,710 --> 02:21:23,439 everybody lost their jobs don't go to 3113 02:21:27,429 --> 02:21:24,720 the hospital right now 3114 02:21:28,389 --> 02:21:27,439 oh no no just don't just don't you'll 3115 02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:28,399 get 3116 02:21:32,469 --> 02:21:29,920 you didn't they'll give it to you 3117 02:21:34,950 --> 02:21:32,479 they'll probably give you the cove 3118 02:21:35,910 --> 02:21:34,960 don't just send somebody in that's got 3119 02:21:39,750 --> 02:21:35,920 cove in 3120 02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:39,760 and especially if you are under 3121 02:21:48,790 --> 02:21:44,720 was it under 5 or over 65 3122 02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:48,800 they will purposely give you covid 3123 02:21:56,389 --> 02:21:52,000 and you know just look at all of those 3124 02:21:59,830 --> 02:21:56,399 nursing home deaths in new york 3125 02:22:02,150 --> 02:21:59,840 yeah yeah they took all of those 3126 02:22:04,469 --> 02:22:02,160 really really sick people and they put 3127 02:22:06,790 --> 02:22:04,479 them in with these old people 3128 02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:06,800 that have been there's immune systems 3129 02:22:10,550 --> 02:22:08,080 are compromised by all 3130 02:22:13,190 --> 02:22:10,560 the flu shots they just had yeah you 3131 02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:13,200 have flu shot you have a 30 3132 02:22:18,070 --> 02:22:16,160 chance higher than anybody else of 3133 02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:18,080 getting coveted 3134 02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:20,080 yeah i never i have never taken the flu 3135 02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:22,080 shot i haven't taken it since high 3136 02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:23,520 school i think yeah 3137 02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:26,560 yeah i i'm well i haven't been to people 3138 02:22:29,510 --> 02:22:27,359 haven't but i 3139 02:22:31,750 --> 02:22:29,520 i haven't had that demanded you know you 3140 02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:31,760 never take the shot or you lose your job 3141 02:22:35,190 --> 02:22:34,319 what are you going to do yeah yeah well 3142 02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:35,200 that's what's weird is 3143 02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:37,439 when it when it becomes a part of a 3144 02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:38,560 legal mandate 3145 02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:40,640 for the state is that's where it becomes 3146 02:22:44,710 --> 02:22:42,399 hickey hinky for me 3147 02:22:46,710 --> 02:22:44,720 like back to the bill gates uh comment 3148 02:22:48,389 --> 02:22:46,720 jocelyn that you made about 3149 02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:48,399 oh if you don't get this covet 3150 02:22:50,870 --> 02:22:50,160 vaccination i don't know when it starts 3151 02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:50,880 to enter 3152 02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:54,160 like health it's almost like this mixing 3153 02:22:56,950 --> 02:22:54,720 of 3154 02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:56,960 religion and politics right it's almost 3155 02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:58,080 like that it's very 3156 02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:59,600 two very important things like the 3157 02:23:03,670 --> 02:23:01,359 economy and health 3158 02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:03,680 i don't know it's like and i want you to 3159 02:23:09,349 --> 02:23:04,479 ask 3160 02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:09,359 does religion and politics have to do 3161 02:23:14,550 --> 02:23:11,680 with the medical society 3162 02:23:17,030 --> 02:23:14,560 this is this is not uh this is not about 3163 02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:17,040 religion this is not about politics this 3164 02:23:20,070 --> 02:23:17,680 is about 3165 02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:20,080 medicine but but but it's all but it's 3166 02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:21,280 it's bringing in 3167 02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:24,160 and they're making the decisions exactly 3168 02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:24,640 yeah 3169 02:23:29,110 --> 02:23:27,920 yes it involves both with which it 3170 02:23:31,349 --> 02:23:29,120 shouldn't i don't 3171 02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:31,359 think well they've highly politicized 3172 02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:32,160 the entire 3173 02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:33,920 thing to the point to where it's 3174 02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:35,840 absolutely ridiculous had they 3175 02:23:41,110 --> 02:23:39,040 not had it not gone to this immediate 3176 02:23:43,590 --> 02:23:41,120 politicization of 3177 02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:43,600 of a disease maybe people would have 3178 02:23:47,510 --> 02:23:45,280 reacted differently but they 3179 02:23:48,550 --> 02:23:47,520 they didn't they almost made it into 3180 02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:48,560 like a smear 3181 02:23:53,750 --> 02:23:52,080 campaign yeah absolutely i mean you know 3182 02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:53,760 americans aren't very good at being told 3183 02:23:58,950 --> 02:23:55,920 what to do or have we 3184 02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:58,960 quarantined healthy people yeah yeah i 3185 02:24:04,270 --> 02:24:00,000 know 3186 02:24:06,469 --> 02:24:04,280 through the bird flu we went through 3187 02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:06,479 h1n1 we went through all of these 3188 02:24:10,550 --> 02:24:07,520 pandemics 3189 02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:10,560 within your lifetime as well 3190 02:24:15,590 --> 02:24:12,560 and they never shut down the country 3191 02:24:18,870 --> 02:24:15,600 they never shut down the world 3192 02:24:22,309 --> 02:24:18,880 i mean people forget that this is global 3193 02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:22,319 yeah there are people all over the world 3194 02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:24,240 sitting at home and those other things 3195 02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:25,359 that you mentioned 3196 02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:28,720 were worse 3197 02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:31,760 we appreciate it yeah yeah but you know 3198 02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:33,520 and and also all these people being 3199 02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:35,600 quarantined you know this whole time 3200 02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:37,439 they're just you know destroying their 3201 02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:40,319 immune systems you know 3202 02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:43,600 right it's it's yeah it's 3203 02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:47,280 exactly um so when you 3204 02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:51,520 have a vaccine uh 3205 02:24:58,389 --> 02:24:54,880 it is injected into you 3206 02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:58,399 and so this is like a cut or a wound 3207 02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:01,520 that your body responds to this virus as 3208 02:25:05,110 --> 02:25:04,240 if it were a cut or a wound when it's 3209 02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:05,120 injected 3210 02:25:09,270 --> 02:25:08,240 with a needle but if you inhale it 3211 02:25:13,030 --> 02:25:09,280 through your mouth 3212 02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:13,040 and your nose there are like little 3213 02:25:19,270 --> 02:25:16,160 little teeny glands and all of this good 3214 02:25:20,230 --> 02:25:19,280 bacteria that fight the back bad 3215 02:25:23,670 --> 02:25:20,240 bacteria 3216 02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:23,680 and the only way to build up immunity 3217 02:25:28,630 --> 02:25:26,720 is to breathe the virus in through your 3218 02:25:29,429 --> 02:25:28,640 mouth or nose and what are they trying 3219 02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:29,439 to do 3220 02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:33,439 cover your mouth and nose with a mask 3221 02:25:40,150 --> 02:25:37,120 with a mask and so this is an antithesis 3222 02:25:43,590 --> 02:25:40,160 of what your human body your 3223 02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:43,600 natural immune system and another thing 3224 02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:46,240 is your natural immune system needs you 3225 02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:47,840 to get outside 3226 02:25:54,389 --> 02:25:51,200 and take a walk in the sunshine yup get 3227 02:25:58,389 --> 02:25:54,399 out of your house and get 3228 02:26:02,070 --> 02:25:58,399 into the bright sunshine 3229 02:26:05,590 --> 02:26:02,080 and support your body and 3230 02:26:06,389 --> 02:26:05,600 exercise so that you can work those 3231 02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:06,399 toxins 3232 02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:09,520 out of your body how many 3233 02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:13,200 people do you know of 3234 02:26:17,750 --> 02:26:15,120 that will actually get out of their 3235 02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:17,760 house and exercise their body 3236 02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:20,800 during this lockdown not a lot but i can 3237 02:26:24,630 --> 02:26:21,760 tell you one thing 3238 02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:24,640 i i i'm a i work in the landscaping 3239 02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:25,600 business and i 3240 02:26:31,190 --> 02:26:28,720 don't wear a mask and uh you know 3241 02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:31,200 occasionally if i'm if i'm around you 3242 02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:32,960 know 3243 02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:36,960 whatever 3244 02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:39,120 and you know they're wearing masks i do 3245 02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:40,080 it to respect 3246 02:26:43,670 --> 02:26:43,120 you know their their opinions basically 3247 02:26:47,030 --> 02:26:43,680 make them 3248 02:26:48,389 --> 02:26:47,040 feel better exactly that's the only 3249 02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:48,399 reason to wear a mask 3250 02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:51,680 is to exactly see you 3251 02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:54,800 i understand and it's uh you 3252 02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:58,000 are a compromised person i love you i'm 3253 02:27:01,750 --> 02:26:59,520 going to wear the mask 3254 02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:01,760 exactly totally [\h__\h] and it's 3255 02:27:05,510 --> 02:27:03,040 interesting it's 3256 02:27:07,110 --> 02:27:05,520 it's very rare that i do but you know 3257 02:27:09,030 --> 02:27:07,120 like i can tell you like 3258 02:27:10,309 --> 02:27:09,040 i mean all these people in construction 3259 02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:10,319 and doing stuff that i do 3260 02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:12,720 like in the landscaping industry i mean 3261 02:27:17,670 --> 02:27:14,800 we're all perfectly fine we're healthy 3262 02:27:18,870 --> 02:27:17,680 like i don't think exactly you know 3263 02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:18,880 having fresh air 3264 02:27:24,870 --> 02:27:21,920 without a mask yeah exactly 3265 02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,880 just plain devil's advocate here they're 3266 02:27:27,510 --> 02:27:26,399 just devil's advocate just getting all 3267 02:27:29,349 --> 02:27:27,520 the facts out there 3268 02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:29,359 uh i have friends that are also in 3269 02:27:33,590 --> 02:27:30,640 construction and they have 3270 02:27:34,950 --> 02:27:33,600 a lot of contractors that like a good 3271 02:27:35,830 --> 02:27:34,960 percentage of them are coming down with 3272 02:27:38,150 --> 02:27:35,840 kovit like 3273 02:27:40,870 --> 02:27:38,160 are they white they are not white oh no 3274 02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:40,880 oh they have mexican descent i believe 3275 02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:44,399 and and are they um being 3276 02:27:50,990 --> 02:27:47,680 offered hydrochloric oxide 3277 02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:51,000 i don't know that intimately no 3278 02:27:55,750 --> 02:27:52,560 hydroxychloroquine 3279 02:27:58,230 --> 02:27:55,760 hydroxy chloroquine i don't know 3280 02:27:59,349 --> 02:27:58,240 you know do you know what it is i don't 3281 02:28:02,389 --> 02:27:59,359 think so no i don't think 3282 02:28:05,429 --> 02:28:02,399 that's like the malaria drug 52 cents 3283 02:28:09,349 --> 02:28:05,439 a serving and uh 3284 02:28:11,510 --> 02:28:09,359 it's been proven 98 effective 3285 02:28:13,349 --> 02:28:11,520 with people that are about to even be 3286 02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:13,359 put on a ventilator 3287 02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:16,800 and the people the amount of people that 3288 02:28:24,550 --> 02:28:21,200 have taken this drug and 3289 02:28:27,110 --> 02:28:24,560 completely uh 3290 02:28:29,190 --> 02:28:27,120 you know that are completely healthy is 3291 02:28:32,150 --> 02:28:29,200 at 98 3292 02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:32,160 and if you take it before you get uh 3293 02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:33,280 covet 3294 02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:36,240 you can wipe it you know just forget 3295 02:28:40,309 --> 02:28:37,120 about it 3296 02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:40,319 right um and it'll keep you it's 3297 02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:43,840 it's like a vaccine it you know if 3298 02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:47,040 you can take it so you don't get 3299 02:28:53,990 --> 02:28:50,080 the preventative and uh 3300 02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:54,000 and so it's been completely the fda 3301 02:28:57,510 --> 02:28:56,080 first came out and they said oh no you 3302 02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:57,520 can't this is 3303 02:29:02,389 --> 02:29:00,160 like this is really horrible all these 3304 02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:02,399 side effects and blah blah blah 3305 02:29:07,429 --> 02:29:05,120 and when i read that i thought this is 3306 02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:07,439 this is [\h__\h] i have a friend that's 3307 02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:10,479 got lupus and she's been taking this 3308 02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:13,760 drug for 35 years 3309 02:29:20,830 --> 02:29:17,120 so you know and it's keeping her healthy 3310 02:29:24,790 --> 02:29:20,840 yeah um and and so we know we have a 3311 02:29:28,630 --> 02:29:24,800 cure and the fda which is a corporation 3312 02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:28,640 listed on dun and brad street uh is 3313 02:29:33,429 --> 02:29:32,080 stopping anybody from you know they're 3314 02:29:36,309 --> 02:29:33,439 they're putting out this 3315 02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:36,319 fake news and after they put out this 3316 02:29:40,309 --> 02:29:37,120 fake news 3317 02:29:42,710 --> 02:29:40,319 that uh hydroxychloroquine uh 3318 02:29:43,830 --> 02:29:42,720 was really horrible and you got all 3319 02:29:47,830 --> 02:29:43,840 these really bad 3320 02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:47,840 side effects then all these scientists 3321 02:29:52,550 --> 02:29:49,280 doctors and scientists 3322 02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:52,560 thousands of them wrote in and said 3323 02:30:00,070 --> 02:29:56,240 this article is full [\h__\h] you know 3324 02:30:00,469 --> 02:30:00,080 so so you know we know that we're being 3325 02:30:04,469 --> 02:30:00,479 fed 3326 02:30:05,750 --> 02:30:04,479 a narrative and we know that they want 3327 02:30:08,230 --> 02:30:05,760 us to die i mean 3328 02:30:08,950 --> 02:30:08,240 go ahead and smoke because nobody has 3329 02:30:12,469 --> 02:30:08,960 died 3330 02:30:15,510 --> 02:30:12,479 of lung cancer since coved 19 has come 3331 02:30:22,309 --> 02:30:19,349 yeah it it's it's ridiculous there's a 3332 02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:22,319 guy that was attacked by a shark 3333 02:30:28,150 --> 02:30:25,040 and they said oh it's because of cozy 3334 02:30:31,349 --> 02:30:28,160 yeah that nobody's in the water 3335 02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:31,359 so this is a cool blaming everything up 3336 02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:34,319 yup yup people who like die counted as a 3337 02:30:39,349 --> 02:30:35,760 coven 3338 02:30:40,950 --> 02:30:39,359 you know he died to covet yeah he died 3339 02:30:44,150 --> 02:30:40,960 of a [\h__\h] shark bite 3340 02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:44,160 exactly yeah you know 3341 02:30:47,830 --> 02:30:46,160 even people even people with like heart 3342 02:30:48,309 --> 02:30:47,840 attacks and stuff like that you know 3343 02:30:52,469 --> 02:30:48,319 like 3344 02:30:53,590 --> 02:30:52,479 problem and then they'll be admitted to 3345 02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:53,600 a hospital 3346 02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,920 and in the hospital they'll end up 3347 02:30:59,110 --> 02:30:57,280 contracting covet 3348 02:31:01,590 --> 02:30:59,120 but they'll die of a heart attack and 3349 02:31:03,349 --> 02:31:01,600 they'll mark it down as a cove of death 3350 02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:03,359 even though it wasn't it was the heart 3351 02:31:07,110 --> 02:31:05,359 attack it was the fact that they went to 3352 02:31:08,950 --> 02:31:07,120 the hospital in the first place where 3353 02:31:11,670 --> 02:31:08,960 they got the covet 3354 02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:11,680 and so yes the thing is if you look at 3355 02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:13,040 where they take 3356 02:31:19,030 --> 02:31:16,399 the sample to test you for covid 3357 02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:19,040 which is causing all the positives it's 3358 02:31:23,590 --> 02:31:20,880 back there in the back of your throat 3359 02:31:26,630 --> 02:31:23,600 where you carry a lot of viruses 3360 02:31:29,270 --> 02:31:26,640 your your body kind of keeps a 3361 02:31:31,030 --> 02:31:29,280 a library of viruses that you've been up 3362 02:31:32,950 --> 02:31:31,040 against 3363 02:31:34,070 --> 02:31:32,960 and that's where they keep it but you 3364 02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:34,080 know where else they 3365 02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:36,160 what they out there are doing there 3366 02:31:40,550 --> 02:31:37,439 they're putting in those 3367 02:31:43,510 --> 02:31:40,560 little tiny teeny 3368 02:31:44,150 --> 02:31:43,520 nano size microchips and they're telling 3369 02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:44,160 you 3370 02:31:50,790 --> 02:31:47,600 two 3371 02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:50,800 weeks as you might have it until we find 3372 02:31:56,790 --> 02:31:53,120 out if you have it or don't have it 3373 02:31:58,790 --> 02:31:56,800 so because you got tested you might have 3374 02:32:01,670 --> 02:31:58,800 it so you have warranty 3375 02:32:02,469 --> 02:32:01,680 and during that time they're going to 3376 02:32:05,190 --> 02:32:02,479 start 3377 02:32:05,990 --> 02:32:05,200 uh loading your information up on the 3378 02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:06,000 tracking 3379 02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:11,920 that is the devil and coordinate right 3380 02:32:15,270 --> 02:32:13,200 there 3381 02:32:16,710 --> 02:32:15,280 so let's say that you have the tracking 3382 02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:16,720 app and you go 3383 02:32:24,790 --> 02:32:20,560 to um go get some 3384 02:32:27,030 --> 02:32:24,800 fried chicken at i love fried chicken 3385 02:32:28,070 --> 02:32:27,040 okay so we're going to go to kfc we're 3386 02:32:31,349 --> 02:32:28,080 going to get some 3387 02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:31,359 fried chicken and it shows up on your 3388 02:32:34,790 --> 02:32:33,760 app it shows what time that you've been 3389 02:32:37,990 --> 02:32:34,800 there 3390 02:32:41,510 --> 02:32:38,000 now on somebody else's app who 3391 02:32:45,830 --> 02:32:41,520 just tested positive for covid 3392 02:32:48,389 --> 02:32:45,840 they go to the kfc an hour before you 3393 02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:48,399 and they pick up their chicken and so 3394 02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:51,840 now they know that you've been 3395 02:32:55,670 --> 02:32:54,640 so now they call you up and say you have 3396 02:32:58,950 --> 02:32:55,680 to 3397 02:32:59,590 --> 02:32:58,960 go in for a two week quarantine and you 3398 02:33:02,950 --> 02:32:59,600 have to 3399 02:33:05,349 --> 02:33:02,960 quarantine on your own until 3400 02:33:05,990 --> 02:33:05,359 uh you know and if you can't quarantine 3401 02:33:09,429 --> 02:33:06,000 on your 3402 02:33:13,110 --> 02:33:09,439 own then we will come in and take 3403 02:33:17,349 --> 02:33:13,120 your children and we will put your 3404 02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:17,359 children into a safe place away from you 3405 02:33:22,630 --> 02:33:20,560 if you don't have two bathrooms in your 3406 02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:22,640 house 3407 02:33:29,590 --> 02:33:26,240 you might consider not 3408 02:33:30,469 --> 02:33:29,600 taking the coved test oh yeah i'm not 3409 02:33:38,389 --> 02:33:30,479 taking it 3410 02:33:45,030 --> 02:33:41,590 yeah no it's it's it's it's 3411 02:33:47,190 --> 02:33:45,040 it's two weeks 3412 02:33:49,510 --> 02:33:47,200 and then you get out of a quarantine for 3413 02:33:52,790 --> 02:33:49,520 two weeks you go to the grocery store 3414 02:33:55,910 --> 02:33:52,800 on the tracking app and 3415 02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:55,920 then an hour before you get there the 3416 02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:56,880 clerk 3417 02:34:03,349 --> 02:34:00,479 that you use just tested for covid so 3418 02:34:04,469 --> 02:34:03,359 now your quarantined for another two 3419 02:34:06,550 --> 02:34:04,479 weeks 3420 02:34:08,230 --> 02:34:06,560 jeez who's just they're just taking over 3421 02:34:12,230 --> 02:34:08,240 your life for freaking 3422 02:34:15,670 --> 02:34:12,240 ever yeah yeah it's it's ridiculous 3423 02:34:19,469 --> 02:34:15,680 and the only way that you can get 3424 02:34:24,950 --> 02:34:19,479 off of that cycle is to 3425 02:34:30,710 --> 02:34:28,550 it seems too easy vaccinated 3426 02:34:32,230 --> 02:34:30,720 then it doesn't matter who you come up 3427 02:34:36,710 --> 02:34:32,240 against 3428 02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:36,720 i've you know the et's told me 3429 02:34:40,309 --> 02:34:38,720 that there's going to be a time that i'm 3430 02:34:42,790 --> 02:34:40,319 not going to be able to move out of my 3431 02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:42,800 city and i said my city is small 3432 02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:46,240 at the time i lived in a very small town 3433 02:34:53,750 --> 02:34:50,319 and it says needs not 3434 02:34:55,030 --> 02:34:53,760 be of any particular size but borders or 3435 02:34:58,309 --> 02:34:55,040 borders 3436 02:35:01,750 --> 02:34:58,319 oh wow and now 3437 02:35:05,349 --> 02:35:01,760 i heard today that 3438 02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:05,359 um arizona is considering 3439 02:35:11,590 --> 02:35:08,800 because we're numb we've had so many new 3440 02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:11,600 covid cases that are positive they're 3441 02:35:15,110 --> 02:35:12,479 considering 3442 02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:15,120 closing the borders you won't be able to 3443 02:35:19,990 --> 02:35:16,399 get in or out of 3444 02:35:21,910 --> 02:35:20,000 arizona holy cow yeah i think this thing 3445 02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:21,920 is far from over 3446 02:35:26,230 --> 02:35:24,479 to to say the least this is this was 3447 02:35:29,429 --> 02:35:26,240 that was just act one 3448 02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:29,439 yeah yeah it's uh i mean 3449 02:35:36,469 --> 02:35:33,280 you know uh and then the uh 3450 02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:36,479 the riots and you know 3451 02:35:43,429 --> 02:35:39,600 that whole thing oh my god yeah 3452 02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:43,439 i mean you have two black martyrs 3453 02:35:50,469 --> 02:35:46,960 killed by police that were both thugs 3454 02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:50,479 yeah and george floyd 3455 02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:53,680 uh let's see george floyd 3456 02:35:57,910 --> 02:35:55,840 knew the guy that killed him because 3457 02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:57,920 they worked for 17 years 3458 02:36:05,030 --> 02:36:01,920 at a a bar together 3459 02:36:08,389 --> 02:36:05,040 as bouncers and 3460 02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:08,399 which was also bus this bar was also 3461 02:36:12,230 --> 02:36:09,280 busted for 3462 02:36:12,590 --> 02:36:12,240 money laundering and child trafficking 3463 02:36:19,830 --> 02:36:12,600 and 3464 02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:19,840 mysteriously burnt down to the ground 3465 02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:22,479 uh you know right after floyd was 3466 02:36:30,950 --> 02:36:24,240 arrested 3467 02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:30,960 uh you know when they had him on the on 3468 02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:31,760 the ground 3469 02:36:36,070 --> 02:36:34,000 yeah he had no hair he was absolutely 3470 02:36:39,190 --> 02:36:36,080 bald shaved head 3471 02:36:44,469 --> 02:36:39,200 but when he was put into 3472 02:36:47,990 --> 02:36:44,479 the ambulance he had hair 3473 02:36:48,830 --> 02:36:48,000 and if you look at that video the one 3474 02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:48,840 thing that's 3475 02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:51,680 missing is the fact that nobody is 3476 02:36:55,990 --> 02:36:52,720 wearing a mask 3477 02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:56,000 it 3478 02:37:03,349 --> 02:37:00,240 especially at the 3479 02:37:04,150 --> 02:37:03,359 point where he's like putting a pen in 3480 02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:04,160 his mouth 3481 02:37:07,190 --> 02:37:05,920 through the through the mouth through 3482 02:37:10,870 --> 02:37:07,200 the mask 3483 02:37:12,950 --> 02:37:10,880 yeah oh 3484 02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:12,960 yeah we're looking at pictures right now 3485 02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:14,560 it was filmed 3486 02:37:19,510 --> 02:37:17,680 before kovid because nobody's wearing a 3487 02:37:20,630 --> 02:37:19,520 mask these people are coming out of a 3488 02:37:24,950 --> 02:37:20,640 grocery store 3489 02:37:28,469 --> 02:37:24,960 that work there that are accusing him 3490 02:37:31,750 --> 02:37:28,479 of passing a 20 bill and 3491 02:37:32,230 --> 02:37:31,760 and then it comes out later that the 3492 02:37:35,510 --> 02:37:32,240 other 3493 02:37:39,510 --> 02:37:35,520 the that asian guy is 3494 02:37:44,070 --> 02:37:39,520 a police police guy that was there 3495 02:37:48,389 --> 02:37:44,080 for the floyd uh snuff video 3496 02:37:51,750 --> 02:37:48,399 his sister is married to 3497 02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:51,760 shavin so 3498 02:37:57,830 --> 02:37:54,880 that's his brother-in-law that is 3499 02:38:00,469 --> 02:37:57,840 standing next to him 3500 02:38:01,349 --> 02:38:00,479 and then when you look at when they're 3501 02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:01,359 putting 3502 02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:05,040 the body of floyd 3503 02:38:08,309 --> 02:38:08,000 they didn't even check his pulse no it 3504 02:38:11,429 --> 02:38:08,319 was 3505 02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:11,439 yeah 3506 02:38:15,510 --> 02:38:13,439 he wasn't pronounced dead he wasn't 3507 02:38:17,349 --> 02:38:15,520 pronounced dead on the scene it was 3508 02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:17,359 they pronounced him dead after they got 3509 02:38:20,230 --> 02:38:18,640 him to the hospital so 3510 02:38:22,230 --> 02:38:20,240 that's why they're worried i'm like are 3511 02:38:25,190 --> 02:38:22,240 they frozen like a side of beef 3512 02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:25,200 they don't do any kind of my nephew is 3513 02:38:29,670 --> 02:38:26,080 an emt 3514 02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:29,680 he told me is the law you have it 3515 02:38:32,630 --> 02:38:31,280 doesn't matter if they're dead or not as 3516 02:38:33,429 --> 02:38:32,640 soon as you get there you have to 3517 02:38:36,710 --> 02:38:33,439 perform 3518 02:38:39,990 --> 02:38:36,720 cpr right right federal law 3519 02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:40,000 right these guys didn't do [\h__\h] they 3520 02:38:43,990 --> 02:38:42,880 just picked him up and when you put him 3521 02:38:47,429 --> 02:38:44,000 on the gurney 3522 02:38:49,349 --> 02:38:47,439 you look at him he doesn't have any legs 3523 02:38:50,710 --> 02:38:49,359 and then they cut across then they cut 3524 02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:50,720 away and they cut 3525 02:38:54,830 --> 02:38:53,840 back and not only does he have legs but 3526 02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:54,840 he's got 3527 02:39:00,389 --> 02:38:58,560 hair and nobody's still wearing a mask 3528 02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:00,399 and they throw him in there like a piece 3529 02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:02,319 of meat and they 3530 02:39:07,190 --> 02:39:05,280 speed away and then we find out later 3531 02:39:10,309 --> 02:39:07,200 that shauvin and floyd 3532 02:39:12,309 --> 02:39:10,319 don't like each other they haven't they 3533 02:39:15,429 --> 02:39:12,319 haven't gotten along 3534 02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:15,439 and uh what probably happened 3535 02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:18,640 was the guy uh you know mirrors in 3536 02:39:24,710 --> 02:39:21,680 on it all these police are in on 3537 02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:24,720 it and they called up um 3538 02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:27,040 shaving they said hey yeah your buddy 3539 02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:29,120 here he's trying to pass one of the fake 3540 02:39:34,550 --> 02:39:31,040 20 dollar bills 3541 02:39:35,429 --> 02:39:34,560 oh they came there and they decided 3542 02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:35,439 they're gonna 3543 02:39:39,349 --> 02:39:38,080 like you're out of here or they're all 3544 02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:39,359 in on it and they say 3545 02:39:43,750 --> 02:39:40,720 we're going to pay you off we're going 3546 02:39:47,110 --> 02:39:43,760 to give new identity you're dead 3547 02:39:48,230 --> 02:39:47,120 and now you're a martyr and you know all 3548 02:39:52,389 --> 02:39:48,240 these people 3549 02:39:56,389 --> 02:39:52,399 i mean the guy got out of jail 3550 02:39:59,510 --> 02:39:56,399 recently after he held a gun to a black 3551 02:40:02,309 --> 02:39:59,520 pregnant lady's belly yep 3552 02:40:04,630 --> 02:40:02,319 and told her you know give me drugs or 3553 02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:04,640 money 3554 02:40:08,469 --> 02:40:07,840 or you and your baby are dead yeah yeah 3555 02:40:11,670 --> 02:40:08,479 i've 3556 02:40:14,070 --> 02:40:11,680 and then they gang raped her her and 3557 02:40:16,150 --> 02:40:14,080 all of the people that he was you know 3558 02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:16,160 she gave him money and then 3559 02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:18,800 he and his four buddies that were 3560 02:40:24,710 --> 02:40:20,000 helping him with this 3561 02:40:28,070 --> 02:40:24,720 burglary gang raped her 3562 02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:28,080 now this is the guy that everybody is 3563 02:40:32,309 --> 02:40:30,640 he's the martyr i i hope i hope that 3564 02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:32,319 this doesn't take away 3565 02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:35,439 from i mean this conspiracy thing like 3566 02:40:39,429 --> 02:40:37,920 this these facts and stuff like we need 3567 02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:39,439 to know about we need to know 3568 02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:41,600 what actually happened right like that's 3569 02:40:45,110 --> 02:40:42,880 super important 3570 02:40:46,150 --> 02:40:45,120 but i i just wanna for the listeners to 3571 02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:46,160 know that 3572 02:40:50,070 --> 02:40:48,399 this doesn't take away from the movement 3573 02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:50,080 i'm i'm kind of 3574 02:40:53,349 --> 02:40:52,240 i don't know i it's it's it's something 3575 02:40:55,269 --> 02:40:53,359 that i have 3576 02:40:56,550 --> 02:40:55,279 nothing to say about because i have no 3577 02:40:59,429 --> 02:40:56,560 experience 3578 02:41:01,110 --> 02:40:59,439 of of being a black person in in the 3579 02:41:03,910 --> 02:41:01,120 confrontation of police i do 3580 02:41:05,030 --> 02:41:03,920 know that it's a very big thing when 3581 02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:05,040 when you're a black 3582 02:41:08,550 --> 02:41:07,200 uh person of color uh dealing with 3583 02:41:11,429 --> 02:41:08,560 police that often 3584 02:41:13,190 --> 02:41:11,439 oh come on becomes violent you know oh 3585 02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:13,200 i'm gonna stop you right there because 3586 02:41:19,670 --> 02:41:16,399 number one my sister married a black guy 3587 02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:19,680 i've got twin black nieces so i'm 3588 02:41:23,750 --> 02:41:21,920 you know i feel like i'm exempt from 3589 02:41:27,269 --> 02:41:23,760 being a racist 3590 02:41:29,910 --> 02:41:27,279 i raise you know help raise these girls 3591 02:41:31,110 --> 02:41:29,920 i want to tell you something whenever a 3592 02:41:34,150 --> 02:41:31,120 policeman comes 3593 02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:34,160 into your uh you know 3594 02:41:37,429 --> 02:41:36,800 pulls up behind you and turns on their 3595 02:41:40,950 --> 02:41:37,439 lights 3596 02:41:43,429 --> 02:41:40,960 and you see it in your review mirror 3597 02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:43,439 it doesn't matter if you're black white 3598 02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:44,000 yellow 3599 02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:47,120 green purple there is 3600 02:41:53,429 --> 02:41:50,560 fear runs through your body i agree 3601 02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:53,439 even though you know you've done nothing 3602 02:41:57,269 --> 02:41:54,080 wrong i 3603 02:42:00,630 --> 02:41:57,279 totally agree with that and so 3604 02:42:04,230 --> 02:42:00,640 it's not about the black ma 3605 02:42:07,510 --> 02:42:04,240 lives matter yes black lives do matter 3606 02:42:09,429 --> 02:42:07,520 all lives matter all of them 3607 02:42:10,630 --> 02:42:09,439 well i think some people kind of suck so 3608 02:42:13,830 --> 02:42:10,640 single i don't know 3609 02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:13,840 one of them exactly 3610 02:42:17,590 --> 02:42:16,800 what happened is that we militarized the 3611 02:42:25,349 --> 02:42:17,600 police 3612 02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:29,269 nick on the the i mean the knee on the 3613 02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:30,399 neck 3614 02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:33,600 that's a common tactic but used by the 3615 02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:34,240 israel 3616 02:42:37,510 --> 02:42:36,960 police they taught it to us which they 3617 02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:37,520 learned 3618 02:42:44,469 --> 02:42:40,800 from the nazis 3619 02:42:48,510 --> 02:42:44,479 yep i i was aware of that yeah yeah 3620 02:42:51,910 --> 02:42:48,520 you know it's that time we have to 3621 02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:51,920 demilitarize the police 100 percent 3622 02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:54,479 i believe that for sure a black uniform 3623 02:42:59,110 --> 02:42:55,520 let's put them back 3624 02:43:02,230 --> 02:42:59,120 into khakis yeah you know and and 3625 02:43:04,389 --> 02:43:02,240 maybe maybe i'm thinking maybe a stretch 3626 02:43:06,830 --> 02:43:04,399 jumpsuit of some sort so they're really 3627 02:43:09,830 --> 02:43:06,840 comfortable and you know 3628 02:43:12,230 --> 02:43:09,840 um yeah i guess 3629 02:43:12,950 --> 02:43:12,240 i guess the point i'm i'm absolutely 3630 02:43:15,830 --> 02:43:12,960 serious 3631 02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:15,840 the the problem is that you're taking 3632 02:43:20,710 --> 02:43:17,279 people 3633 02:43:23,030 --> 02:43:20,720 that uh have nothing 3634 02:43:24,790 --> 02:43:23,040 in their life and so they join the 3635 02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:24,800 military 3636 02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:28,640 they learn 3637 02:43:34,389 --> 02:43:32,080 military police policies 3638 02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:34,399 then they get out of the military and 3639 02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:36,080 they go into 3640 02:43:42,710 --> 02:43:39,200 government as either um 3641 02:43:46,389 --> 02:43:42,720 you know a policeman a 3642 02:43:50,389 --> 02:43:46,399 sheriff or even 3643 02:43:53,429 --> 02:43:50,399 you know some sort of spy or 3644 02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:53,439 uh security uh 3645 02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:56,720 something some 3646 02:43:59,910 --> 02:43:59,600 they protect the president i mean there 3647 02:44:04,150 --> 02:43:59,920 is 3648 02:44:08,309 --> 02:44:04,160 was 3649 02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:08,319 that back in the years of obama 3650 02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:10,160 they decided that they were going to 3651 02:44:14,230 --> 02:44:11,520 take all of this 3652 02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:14,240 old military stuff and instead of 3653 02:44:18,150 --> 02:44:15,120 selling it 3654 02:44:21,429 --> 02:44:18,160 at you know um 3655 02:44:25,670 --> 02:44:21,439 one of those outlet stores for 3656 02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:25,680 military garb yeah the depots 3657 02:44:36,870 --> 02:44:28,960 yeah you know everything 3658 02:44:41,750 --> 02:44:39,590 they decided no we're not going to throw 3659 02:44:43,750 --> 02:44:41,760 away this stuff this stuff is too 3660 02:44:46,389 --> 02:44:43,760 good we're not going to we're not going 3661 02:44:49,670 --> 02:44:46,399 to sell the public 3662 02:44:53,269 --> 02:44:49,680 these these steel american steel 3663 02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:53,279 reinforced cars we can get more money 3664 02:44:57,429 --> 02:44:54,479 recycling it 3665 02:44:58,150 --> 02:44:57,439 and we can we can get more money taking 3666 02:45:05,590 --> 02:44:58,160 these 3667 02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:05,600 from uh the gulf war and giving them to 3668 02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:07,120 the chicago police 3669 02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:10,080 yep yep now when you have a hammer 3670 02:45:15,349 --> 02:45:12,160 everything looks like a nail doesn't it 3671 02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:15,359 that's right that is right yeah i 3672 02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:16,960 i am completely against the 3673 02:45:21,910 --> 02:45:19,359 militarization of the of the police 3674 02:45:24,150 --> 02:45:21,920 uh that's the reason we have a military 3675 02:45:27,269 --> 02:45:24,160 in the first place 3676 02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:27,279 yeah exactly yeah so i think it's you 3677 02:45:30,790 --> 02:45:28,720 know it's just a 3678 02:45:32,230 --> 02:45:30,800 matter of time that people are just 3679 02:45:35,349 --> 02:45:32,240 going to say no 3680 02:45:38,630 --> 02:45:35,359 yeah yeah you know it's it's not 3681 02:45:41,910 --> 02:45:38,640 i'm i mean believe me i 3682 02:45:42,309 --> 02:45:41,920 i've marched in civil rights marches 3683 02:45:45,510 --> 02:45:42,319 i've 3684 02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:45,520 marched in vietnam protests right 3685 02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:48,640 i have i've been there i've worked in 3686 02:45:53,269 --> 02:45:50,160 the state capitals 3687 02:45:57,590 --> 02:45:53,279 i see what was going on 3688 02:46:00,950 --> 02:45:57,600 and i do know that everything 3689 02:46:03,190 --> 02:46:00,960 if it's happening it's planned 3690 02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:03,200 yeah i know absolutely and i think 3691 02:46:06,550 --> 02:46:04,000 everybody 3692 02:46:07,830 --> 02:46:06,560 else is waking up to that fact too 3693 02:46:09,190 --> 02:46:07,840 because 3694 02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:09,200 they're sitting at home they've got 3695 02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:11,200 nothing else to do but stare at their 3696 02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:12,880 navel and contemplate 3697 02:46:20,389 --> 02:46:16,399 why they're here and the ass start 3698 02:46:21,030 --> 02:46:20,399 asking questions so you know this whole 3699 02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:21,040 thing 3700 02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:24,479 i hope backfires a hundred percent oh me 3701 02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:24,800 too 3702 02:46:32,469 --> 02:46:28,240 right i'm behind the movement per se 3703 02:46:36,630 --> 02:46:32,479 right but the movement gives you no 3704 02:46:37,990 --> 02:46:36,640 excuse at all to take somebody else's 3705 02:46:41,190 --> 02:46:38,000 property away from them 3706 02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:41,200 by burning it by you know 3707 02:46:48,070 --> 02:46:44,720 by occupying it uh 3708 02:46:52,070 --> 02:46:48,080 you know that it gives you no reason 3709 02:46:55,349 --> 02:46:52,080 to break the law yeah absolutely you can 3710 02:47:00,230 --> 02:46:55,359 you can peacefully protest you can 3711 02:47:04,309 --> 02:47:00,240 peacefully occupy government 3712 02:47:04,790 --> 02:47:04,319 areas parks and city halls and all of 3713 02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:04,800 that 3714 02:47:07,990 --> 02:47:07,120 right but you can't go into somebody's 3715 02:47:10,790 --> 02:47:08,000 business 3716 02:47:11,110 --> 02:47:10,800 and throw a molotov cocktail into it 3717 02:47:17,750 --> 02:47:11,120 right 3718 02:47:18,950 --> 02:47:17,760 you can't go into a shoe store and take 3719 02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:18,960 all the shoes 3720 02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:21,600 just do it yeah it's like all your anger 3721 02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:23,040 is directed at the wrong 3722 02:47:27,269 --> 02:47:25,520 people but when you're funded by the 3723 02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:27,279 clintons and soros i mean what do you 3724 02:47:31,750 --> 02:47:28,720 expect you know 3725 02:47:34,070 --> 02:47:31,760 that's their job oh my goodness well i'm 3726 02:47:36,230 --> 02:47:34,080 glad that you gave me a platform tonight 3727 02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:36,240 so i can get that off my chest oh no 3728 02:47:41,030 --> 02:47:37,680 worries no worries 3729 02:47:44,630 --> 02:47:41,040 and what the et said was 3730 02:47:48,070 --> 02:47:44,640 we want you to believe in us but not too 3731 02:47:49,750 --> 02:47:48,080 much take care of your own business yeah 3732 02:47:51,830 --> 02:47:49,760 that makes sense that makes sense i like 3733 02:47:52,790 --> 02:47:51,840 that well i would like to kind of round 3734 02:47:56,550 --> 02:47:52,800 this back 3735 02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:56,560 uh into the ets i had a question for you 3736 02:48:01,910 --> 02:47:59,520 i uh i recently i wanted to get your 3737 02:48:02,230 --> 02:48:01,920 thoughts on this and see what you think 3738 02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:02,240 i 3739 02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:09,840 had we had went out to 3740 02:48:14,469 --> 02:48:12,880 uh fredericksburg out here in texas and 3741 02:48:16,150 --> 02:48:14,479 uh 3742 02:48:18,070 --> 02:48:16,160 we ended up seeing something pretty 3743 02:48:21,830 --> 02:48:18,080 interesting out in the sky 3744 02:48:25,750 --> 02:48:21,840 um they were they were 3745 02:48:29,110 --> 02:48:25,760 little lights um but they they 3746 02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:29,120 had this flash to it it would flash or 3747 02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:30,640 it would come on 3748 02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:32,319 and then it would turn off for a few 3749 02:48:35,990 --> 02:48:34,960 seconds and then it would flash a couple 3750 02:48:38,469 --> 02:48:36,000 times 3751 02:48:40,309 --> 02:48:38,479 and then it just stayed there and then 3752 02:48:43,510 --> 02:48:40,319 it would just disappear 3753 02:48:45,269 --> 02:48:43,520 and then later on about maybe 20 minutes 3754 02:48:48,469 --> 02:48:45,279 later right before we left 3755 02:48:49,429 --> 02:48:48,479 it showed up again and it was right off 3756 02:48:51,990 --> 02:48:49,439 in the in the 3757 02:48:52,790 --> 02:48:52,000 in the tree line right and you know my 3758 02:48:54,950 --> 02:48:52,800 buddy 3759 02:48:57,030 --> 02:48:54,960 he knows that you know i we do the the 3760 02:48:58,870 --> 02:48:57,040 podcast and so you know we were kind of 3761 02:49:00,389 --> 02:48:58,880 they were like wow i've never seen 3762 02:49:02,070 --> 02:49:00,399 anything like that before and i was like 3763 02:49:05,269 --> 02:49:02,080 yeah it was pretty interesting 3764 02:49:07,429 --> 02:49:05,279 you know we i can't tell you what it was 3765 02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:07,439 right but all i know is that it looked 3766 02:49:10,710 --> 02:49:08,560 definitely funny 3767 02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:10,720 and it kind of resembled kind of what we 3768 02:49:14,710 --> 02:49:12,560 saw out in sedona 3769 02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:14,720 well and ben i forgot to tell you this 3770 02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:16,000 part when i was telling you this story 3771 02:49:20,469 --> 02:49:16,800 but 3772 02:49:22,630 --> 02:49:20,479 uh right after that had happened 3773 02:49:23,910 --> 02:49:22,640 i woke up i woke up in the middle of the 3774 02:49:27,349 --> 02:49:23,920 night and i 3775 02:49:31,190 --> 02:49:27,359 had this memory this extremely 3776 02:49:35,110 --> 02:49:31,200 clear memory of me being a child 3777 02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:35,120 and waking up as a child um 3778 02:49:41,110 --> 02:49:38,720 and i we talk about this fascination 3779 02:49:42,309 --> 02:49:41,120 that we have with like ufos and aliens 3780 02:49:45,030 --> 02:49:42,319 and things like that 3781 02:49:46,070 --> 02:49:45,040 and my fascination kind of came from 3782 02:49:50,309 --> 02:49:46,080 like this 3783 02:49:53,750 --> 02:49:50,319 extreme fear like i was terrified 3784 02:49:56,309 --> 02:49:53,760 of like aliens when i was a kid and uh 3785 02:49:58,550 --> 02:49:56,319 i you know i could never pinpoint like 3786 02:50:02,550 --> 02:49:58,560 the exact moment that i happened but 3787 02:50:05,590 --> 02:50:02,560 i woke up and i remembered 3788 02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:05,600 as a me being a child waking up 3789 02:50:11,110 --> 02:50:09,040 and like being extremely like 3790 02:50:12,630 --> 02:50:11,120 freaked out for some reason and i didn't 3791 02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:12,640 know what it was 3792 02:50:17,349 --> 02:50:16,000 um but then my story kind of starts 3793 02:50:18,710 --> 02:50:17,359 usually like when i tell people how did 3794 02:50:21,910 --> 02:50:18,720 you get into this and like 3795 02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:21,920 i i saw uh my mom was watching fire in 3796 02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:22,880 the sky 3797 02:50:26,950 --> 02:50:25,840 and i i had snuck in you know to the 3798 02:50:29,030 --> 02:50:26,960 living room and i had 3799 02:50:30,070 --> 02:50:29,040 seen this part you know and it kind of 3800 02:50:31,429 --> 02:50:30,080 freaked me out and 3801 02:50:33,510 --> 02:50:31,439 you know i always kind of attributed 3802 02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:33,520 that to maybe like why i was so scared 3803 02:50:37,750 --> 02:50:35,920 like as a child i saw this scary movie 3804 02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:37,760 and it freaked me out 3805 02:50:41,990 --> 02:50:40,479 but i had this i had this this this 3806 02:50:45,269 --> 02:50:42,000 breakthrough in my head 3807 02:50:46,389 --> 02:50:45,279 like as a child before i had even seen 3808 02:50:49,750 --> 02:50:46,399 the movie 3809 02:50:50,150 --> 02:50:49,760 of being very familiar like having like 3810 02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:50,160 this 3811 02:50:57,910 --> 02:50:55,279 the movie was like kind of 3812 02:50:59,590 --> 02:50:57,920 i it's hard to explain it it's really 3813 02:51:01,429 --> 02:50:59,600 hard to explain but yeah it definitely 3814 02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:01,439 struck a nerve with me but 3815 02:51:06,389 --> 02:51:04,479 it was like maybe like a week or two ago 3816 02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:06,399 that i i just woke up in the middle of 3817 02:51:10,870 --> 02:51:07,840 the night and i had this 3818 02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:10,880 very very clear memory 3819 02:51:18,070 --> 02:51:14,479 of me being scared as a child whoa 3820 02:51:19,830 --> 02:51:18,080 yeah wow and i i don't know 3821 02:51:21,269 --> 02:51:19,840 i don't know i don't know anything about 3822 02:51:22,710 --> 02:51:21,279 it you know i don't 3823 02:51:24,469 --> 02:51:22,720 i don't think i've ever had an 3824 02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:24,479 experience i don't think 3825 02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:27,359 you know you know what do i know i've 3826 02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:29,200 never been regressed i've never 3827 02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:32,000 you know but you know well the next time 3828 02:51:35,750 --> 02:51:33,760 i see you i guess we're gonna have to do 3829 02:51:38,150 --> 02:51:35,760 a regression honey 3830 02:51:38,870 --> 02:51:38,160 that's what it sounds like to me it 3831 02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:38,880 sounds like 3832 02:51:44,790 --> 02:51:42,240 uh something triggered 3833 02:51:46,550 --> 02:51:44,800 that memory for a reason yeah that's 3834 02:51:47,510 --> 02:51:46,560 exactly what i was thinking because i 3835 02:51:49,670 --> 02:51:47,520 mean you know we had 3836 02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:49,680 you know me and ben had seen this thing 3837 02:51:52,950 --> 02:51:51,200 out in sedona and 3838 02:51:55,030 --> 02:51:52,960 nothing and then you know i'm out with 3839 02:51:57,110 --> 02:51:55,040 my wife and a couple friends and 3840 02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:57,120 we see this thing again and then a few 3841 02:52:00,389 --> 02:51:58,319 days later 3842 02:52:02,630 --> 02:52:00,399 just randomly i woke up in the middle of 3843 02:52:05,269 --> 02:52:02,640 the night and like i say i wake up 3844 02:52:05,670 --> 02:52:05,279 at five in the morning every morning so 3845 02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:05,680 i 3846 02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:09,200 to go back to sleep 3847 02:52:13,349 --> 02:52:11,359 but i could not go back to sleep because 3848 02:52:17,510 --> 02:52:13,359 this memory was like 3849 02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:17,520 crystal clear of me as a child 3850 02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:20,479 and it was just so strange okay i 3851 02:52:22,630 --> 02:52:21,040 couldn't 3852 02:52:24,550 --> 02:52:22,640 i still like can't get over it like 3853 02:52:26,710 --> 02:52:24,560 that's gotta mean something it was 3854 02:52:29,110 --> 02:52:26,720 it was weird it was weird yeah but for 3855 02:52:32,070 --> 02:52:29,120 some reason i 3856 02:52:32,950 --> 02:52:32,080 i i made this connection between that 3857 02:52:36,469 --> 02:52:32,960 time when i 3858 02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:36,479 saw you know fire in the sky sneaking in 3859 02:52:39,910 --> 02:52:38,800 you know with my mom and then earlier on 3860 02:52:41,670 --> 02:52:39,920 in my life 3861 02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:41,680 as a child for some reason those two 3862 02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:43,040 things like connected 3863 02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:45,760 for whatever reason i have no idea i 3864 02:52:47,510 --> 02:52:46,240 don't know 3865 02:52:49,429 --> 02:52:47,520 i just wanted to get your thoughts on 3866 02:52:52,469 --> 02:52:49,439 that maybe you think it's maybe some 3867 02:52:55,670 --> 02:52:52,479 like random connection or something 3868 02:52:59,990 --> 02:52:55,680 i i do i think that uh it's 3869 02:53:04,630 --> 02:53:02,870 well you know that same everything 3870 02:53:08,230 --> 02:53:04,640 happens for a reason 3871 02:53:09,429 --> 02:53:08,240 yeah yeah uh you were here in sedona you 3872 02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:09,439 were 3873 02:53:15,830 --> 02:53:13,439 thinking about these 3874 02:53:16,550 --> 02:53:15,840 weird things was this before or after 3875 02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:16,560 ufo 3876 02:53:21,830 --> 02:53:19,840 congress um so the 3877 02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:21,840 the most recent one when we went to 3878 02:53:27,110 --> 02:53:23,200 fredericksburg was 3879 02:53:27,510 --> 02:53:27,120 after ufo congress yeah so i mean you 3880 02:53:34,309 --> 02:53:27,520 know 3881 02:53:35,750 --> 02:53:34,319 the i i just think that anybody that 3882 02:53:37,750 --> 02:53:35,760 comes on this path 3883 02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:37,760 everybody that i meet at these 3884 02:53:42,710 --> 02:53:39,600 conferences 3885 02:53:45,750 --> 02:53:42,720 they have something 3886 02:53:50,950 --> 02:53:45,760 that is a piece of the puzzle and 3887 02:53:53,429 --> 02:53:50,960 you know i can see it immediately 3888 02:53:55,830 --> 02:53:53,439 when i meet people is probably why i 3889 02:54:00,070 --> 02:53:55,840 took you guys by the hands and said 3890 02:54:03,590 --> 02:54:00,080 this is my friend that's not my friend 3891 02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:03,600 because you guys really 3892 02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:07,120 have a piece of the puzzle and 3893 02:54:13,990 --> 02:54:10,640 until we know what the puzzle 3894 02:54:14,630 --> 02:54:14,000 is it's hard to even know what the piece 3895 02:54:17,510 --> 02:54:14,640 is 3896 02:54:18,389 --> 02:54:17,520 right you just have to keep you know 3897 02:54:20,309 --> 02:54:18,399 like 3898 02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:20,319 when you have one of those sweaters and 3899 02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:21,920 it's got a thread that 3900 02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:24,080 bothers you and then you start pulling 3901 02:54:29,110 --> 02:54:25,200 out the thread 3902 02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:29,120 it starts unraveling and unraveling yeah 3903 02:54:32,630 --> 02:54:30,960 yeah i think you need to just keep 3904 02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:32,640 pulling up 3905 02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:34,560 yeah i think that's every day and it's 3906 02:54:40,230 --> 02:54:37,600 going to unravel the story that you 3907 02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:40,240 knew always existed there in the first 3908 02:54:42,389 --> 02:54:40,960 place 3909 02:54:44,630 --> 02:54:42,399 you know that's funny you say that 3910 02:54:47,030 --> 02:54:44,640 jocelyn like it always does feel like a 3911 02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:47,040 family familiarity every time we hear 3912 02:54:50,230 --> 02:54:49,120 something mind-blowing from either you 3913 02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:50,240 or or 3914 02:54:57,750 --> 02:54:53,760 uh uh melinda 3915 02:55:00,309 --> 02:54:57,760 or lauren yeah it always feels like 3916 02:55:02,070 --> 02:55:00,319 once i know about it that initial shock 3917 02:55:05,510 --> 02:55:02,080 wave is over it's almost 3918 02:55:07,910 --> 02:55:05,520 like this feeling of i knew it i knew it 3919 02:55:08,790 --> 02:55:07,920 yeah like that was just confirmation 3920 02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,800 you're just coming 3921 02:55:12,630 --> 02:55:10,800 you're not coming here for any psychic 3922 02:55:14,150 --> 02:55:12,640 information you're just coming here for 3923 02:55:16,550 --> 02:55:14,160 confirmation yeah 3924 02:55:17,510 --> 02:55:16,560 and that's what i tell most of people 3925 02:55:20,790 --> 02:55:17,520 that 3926 02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:20,800 want to have like greetings from me 3927 02:55:27,990 --> 02:55:24,479 um it's i'm just 3928 02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:28,000 confirming exactly what they already 3929 02:55:35,349 --> 02:55:28,720 know 3930 02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:35,359 from 3931 02:55:41,590 --> 02:55:38,399 on the other side and that 3932 02:55:45,510 --> 02:55:41,600 this whole cove thing is 3933 02:55:49,110 --> 02:55:45,520 really showing us that how corrupt 3934 02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:49,120 our entire government is and 3935 02:55:54,870 --> 02:55:52,240 how we need to start making 3936 02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:54,880 better decisions and being a little bit 3937 02:55:59,269 --> 02:55:56,240 more involved 3938 02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:59,279 and not so lackadaisical 3939 02:56:02,389 --> 02:56:01,680 and you know trusting others completely 3940 02:56:06,070 --> 02:56:02,399 agree with that 3941 02:56:09,590 --> 02:56:06,080 excuse you know quote air quotes 3942 02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:09,600 uh experts to make our decisions 3943 02:56:13,429 --> 02:56:12,560 for us this is like that's not working 3944 02:56:17,030 --> 02:56:13,439 yeah 3945 02:56:18,230 --> 02:56:17,040 every everybody has to step up everybody 3946 02:56:22,309 --> 02:56:18,240 is an individual 3947 02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:22,319 and all lives matter all your opinions 3948 02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:26,560 matter all of your energy matters and 3949 02:56:31,030 --> 02:56:28,880 the only way that we're going to get 3950 02:56:35,110 --> 02:56:31,040 over to the other side 3951 02:56:38,950 --> 02:56:35,120 is when we come together and love and 3952 02:56:42,550 --> 02:56:38,960 in unity and if you don't agree 3953 02:56:46,070 --> 02:56:42,560 with everything that i say that's fine 3954 02:56:49,750 --> 02:56:46,080 let's i mean it was fine before covid 3955 02:56:52,349 --> 02:56:49,760 why is it so different now yeah 3956 02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:52,359 what difference does it make if i'm a 3957 02:56:57,110 --> 02:56:53,600 libertarian 3958 02:56:59,429 --> 02:56:57,120 a democrat or a republican or the man in 3959 02:57:01,990 --> 02:56:59,439 the moon it doesn't matter 3960 02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:02,000 i am your sister and i am standing next 3961 02:57:06,630 --> 02:57:03,040 to you 3962 02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:06,640 with love and companionship 3963 02:57:14,630 --> 02:57:10,160 and humanity and 3964 02:57:18,469 --> 02:57:14,640 knowing that there is a higher law 3965 02:57:22,309 --> 02:57:18,479 and as soon as we understand that 3966 02:57:25,349 --> 02:57:22,319 we can step up to that higher law 3967 02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:25,359 and we can start 3968 02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:28,240 speaking from our heart our truth 3969 02:57:33,910 --> 02:57:30,479 desires 3970 02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:33,920 then we will jump the shark 3971 02:57:41,349 --> 02:57:37,120 and become a much better mankind a much 3972 02:57:43,830 --> 02:57:41,359 kinder mankind and it doesn't matter 3973 02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:43,840 what the bankers say it doesn't matter 3974 02:57:48,630 --> 02:57:45,279 how much money 3975 02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:48,640 you have in the bank what matters 3976 02:57:53,910 --> 02:57:52,560 is how much love you can give humanity 3977 02:57:57,990 --> 02:57:53,920 to make this a better 3978 02:58:01,349 --> 02:57:58,000 world that was beautiful that was good 3979 02:58:04,870 --> 02:58:01,359 i loved it i loved it excellent yeah 3980 02:58:05,429 --> 02:58:04,880 you know guys beautiful i love you so 3981 02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:05,439 much 3982 02:58:14,230 --> 02:58:12,230 i know it just flies by so fast when 3983 02:58:17,110 --> 02:58:14,240 we have you guys on keeps looking out 3984 02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:19,510 oh man well that was a great note to end 3985 02:58:23,830 --> 02:58:21,120 on yeah that was a great 3986 02:58:25,510 --> 02:58:23,840 some positivity yes and encouragement i 3987 02:58:26,710 --> 02:58:25,520 love it i love it we love you so much 3988 02:58:29,030 --> 02:58:26,720 jocelyn thank you so much 3989 02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:29,040 i love you too guys you take care of 3990 02:58:34,070 --> 02:58:30,399 that little baby girl 3991 02:58:37,190 --> 02:58:34,080 oh i will get to sedona whenever you can 3992 02:58:41,750 --> 02:58:37,200 or i'll see you at the next 3993 02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:41,760 available conference absolutely 3994 02:58:48,389 --> 02:58:45,520 okay you guys all right josh love and 3995 02:58:50,309 --> 02:58:48,399 signing off this is jocelyn buckner from 3996 02:58:53,510 --> 02:58:50,319 sedona arizona 3997 02:58:55,429 --> 02:58:53,520 and i'm out of here perfect 3998 02:58:57,429 --> 02:58:55,439 all right we'll talk to you later have a 3999 02:59:01,830 --> 02:58:57,439 good night all right 4000 02:59:05,110 --> 02:59:01,840 bye bye bye yeah it was great man 4001 02:59:08,469 --> 02:59:05,120 wow oh 4002 02:59:11,269 --> 02:59:08,479 dude like what it was cool because that 4003 02:59:13,349 --> 02:59:11,279 was a different perspective 4004 02:59:15,349 --> 02:59:13,359 from her right like that was a different 4005 02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:15,359 like kind of like 4006 02:59:18,950 --> 02:59:17,600 it was like a different jocelyn almost 4007 02:59:20,309 --> 02:59:18,960 like the first time we had her 4008 02:59:21,990 --> 02:59:20,319 yeah where it was just like a lot of 4009 02:59:23,910 --> 02:59:22,000 stories explanation 4010 02:59:26,309 --> 02:59:23,920 yeah this was kind of the same thing at 4011 02:59:28,070 --> 02:59:26,319 the beginning but then she was like hey 4012 02:59:29,590 --> 02:59:28,080 yeah you know well that's kind of the 4013 02:59:31,830 --> 02:59:29,600 side that you and i have both 4014 02:59:33,510 --> 02:59:31,840 seen personally with josh like getting 4015 02:59:34,630 --> 02:59:33,520 to know her as a person which i really 4016 02:59:36,309 --> 02:59:34,640 appreciated 4017 02:59:38,070 --> 02:59:36,319 because i feel like yeah halfway through 4018 02:59:39,990 --> 02:59:38,080 it's like let me 4019 02:59:42,469 --> 02:59:40,000 tell me tell you how i really feel about 4020 02:59:45,429 --> 02:59:42,479 stuff you know we started getting into 4021 02:59:47,590 --> 02:59:45,439 the the king stuff yeah which was 4022 02:59:50,870 --> 02:59:47,600 amazing timing anyway 4023 02:59:53,990 --> 02:59:50,880 to talk about that um i mean yeah we 4024 02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:54,000 we got into some political things i 4025 02:59:58,150 --> 02:59:55,520 still have some things to 4026 03:00:00,550 --> 02:59:58,160 get off my chest about the black lives 4027 03:00:03,349 --> 03:00:00,560 matter movement i mean 4028 03:00:05,429 --> 03:00:03,359 look i we don't know where they're 4029 03:00:08,550 --> 03:00:05,439 coming from i just want to say this like 4030 03:00:09,030 --> 03:00:08,560 i don't want to have this be a platform 4031 03:00:11,190 --> 03:00:09,040 to 4032 03:00:12,389 --> 03:00:11,200 be one-sided or the other because i feel 4033 03:00:14,950 --> 03:00:12,399 like 4034 03:00:16,309 --> 03:00:14,960 i don't have a perspective all my 4035 03:00:19,190 --> 03:00:16,319 perspective is that i 4036 03:00:20,070 --> 03:00:19,200 i do see i come from a family of of law 4037 03:00:21,910 --> 03:00:20,080 enforcement and 4038 03:00:24,150 --> 03:00:21,920 and i know that there are good people in 4039 03:00:27,030 --> 03:00:24,160 law enforcement and there are bad people 4040 03:00:28,950 --> 03:00:27,040 and i feel like you hear more and you 4041 03:00:31,349 --> 03:00:28,960 see more my black friends say that 4042 03:00:32,150 --> 03:00:31,359 that you they have to hide from the 4043 03:00:33,910 --> 03:00:32,160 police even 4044 03:00:35,349 --> 03:00:33,920 they're just sitting in their front yard 4045 03:00:36,230 --> 03:00:35,359 like i just know that from personal 4046 03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:36,240 experience 4047 03:00:40,230 --> 03:00:38,160 like it's different like that's all i 4048 03:00:42,230 --> 03:00:40,240 want to to to say 4049 03:00:43,429 --> 03:00:42,240 now that you know i guess we do have a 4050 03:00:46,070 --> 03:00:43,439 platform but 4051 03:00:47,349 --> 03:00:46,080 there is a difference between a white 4052 03:00:49,990 --> 03:00:47,359 person a mexican person 4053 03:00:51,349 --> 03:00:50,000 a black person a filipino person a 4054 03:00:53,429 --> 03:00:51,359 chinese person 4055 03:00:55,910 --> 03:00:53,439 everybody's different i think that the 4056 03:00:59,030 --> 03:00:55,920 america knows that there is a difference 4057 03:00:59,510 --> 03:00:59,040 and we're we're we're paying attention 4058 03:01:01,429 --> 03:00:59,520 to 4059 03:01:03,190 --> 03:01:01,439 the the people that are getting 4060 03:01:04,150 --> 03:01:03,200 discriminated against the most i do 4061 03:01:06,950 --> 03:01:04,160 believe that exists 4062 03:01:08,070 --> 03:01:06,960 and that's what needs to be fixed there 4063 03:01:10,469 --> 03:01:08,080 doesn't need to be 4064 03:01:12,150 --> 03:01:10,479 a difference yes in the way it's handled 4065 03:01:14,630 --> 03:01:12,160 yeah between whoever you are 4066 03:01:16,070 --> 03:01:14,640 yep and that needs to be fixed and i 4067 03:01:17,830 --> 03:01:16,080 think jocelyn kind of hit the 4068 03:01:19,510 --> 03:01:17,840 nail right on the head on when she was 4069 03:01:21,670 --> 03:01:19,520 like yeah we need to stop 4070 03:01:23,190 --> 03:01:21,680 militarizing the police exactly and just 4071 03:01:24,950 --> 03:01:23,200 letting these people come in 4072 03:01:27,349 --> 03:01:24,960 right you know with these tactics that 4073 03:01:29,670 --> 03:01:27,359 were taught to us by the [\h__\h] nazis 4074 03:01:30,870 --> 03:01:29,680 exactly it's just we need to we need to 4075 03:01:33,429 --> 03:01:30,880 reel this [\h__\h] in 4076 03:01:36,790 --> 03:01:33,439 right she wasn't saying oh it doesn't 4077 03:01:39,830 --> 03:01:36,800 exist she was saying yes it does exist 4078 03:01:41,110 --> 03:01:39,840 but the reason why the the [\h__\h] has gone 4079 03:01:42,790 --> 03:01:41,120 sour is because it is 4080 03:01:44,230 --> 03:01:42,800 militarized they learn this [\h__\h] from 4081 03:01:47,990 --> 03:01:44,240 the nazis like this is 4082 03:01:48,309 --> 03:01:48,000 racism yeah so i mean like i i left to 4083 03:01:51,510 --> 03:01:48,319 pee 4084 03:01:54,790 --> 03:01:51,520 not because i was trying to 4085 03:01:56,950 --> 03:01:54,800 not whatever but yeah uh yeah i 4086 03:01:57,830 --> 03:01:56,960 i i felt like there was some tension for 4087 03:02:00,550 --> 03:01:57,840 a little bit but 4088 03:02:01,990 --> 03:02:00,560 i mean dude i i totally i back up 4089 03:02:05,269 --> 03:02:02,000 jocelyn i love her like 4090 03:02:08,550 --> 03:02:05,279 to the fullest and her perspective is is 4091 03:02:11,030 --> 03:02:08,560 it totally uh yeah well that's what this 4092 03:02:13,670 --> 03:02:11,040 show is about man yeah ufos aliens all 4093 03:02:16,070 --> 03:02:13,680 things weird and uh you know we're we're 4094 03:02:17,190 --> 03:02:16,080 not a gotcha kind of a show no i want to 4095 03:02:18,870 --> 03:02:17,200 hear your opinion 4096 03:02:20,630 --> 03:02:18,880 yeah that's what it's all about yeah and 4097 03:02:23,269 --> 03:02:20,640 then whoever listens to this 4098 03:02:24,150 --> 03:02:23,279 can can hear your opinion as well and if 4099 03:02:28,070 --> 03:02:24,160 they 4100 03:02:30,469 --> 03:02:28,080 cool move on to the next one 4101 03:02:32,309 --> 03:02:30,479 you know i prefer not for everybody not 4102 03:02:34,469 --> 03:02:32,319 to talk about politics but i'd rather 4103 03:02:37,110 --> 03:02:34,479 just stick to aliens 4104 03:02:39,030 --> 03:02:37,120 [\h__\h] but yeah you know but if you can 4105 03:02:41,110 --> 03:02:39,040 make the connection then 4106 03:02:42,870 --> 03:02:41,120 yeah then hit the ball well that's the 4107 03:02:45,750 --> 03:02:42,880 thing is that i think that jocelyn 4108 03:02:46,550 --> 03:02:45,760 has a very i mean man she's she's so 4109 03:02:48,550 --> 03:02:46,560 smart like she's 4110 03:02:50,070 --> 03:02:48,560 able to connect all these things yeah 4111 03:02:53,110 --> 03:02:50,080 you know yeah and she was 4112 03:02:56,469 --> 03:02:53,120 like yeah oh my god 4113 03:02:59,190 --> 03:02:56,479 there is there is a huge web 4114 03:03:00,150 --> 03:02:59,200 and man yeah that was just that was such 4115 03:03:03,030 --> 03:03:00,160 an awesome 4116 03:03:05,510 --> 03:03:03,040 talk dude yeah that was really good i 4117 03:03:07,670 --> 03:03:05,520 love that we got to talk about like 4118 03:03:10,070 --> 03:03:07,680 this the dark [\h__\h] we've been talking 4119 03:03:13,590 --> 03:03:10,080 about yeah like adrenochrome 4120 03:03:14,790 --> 03:03:13,600 and the illuminati and like sacrificing 4121 03:03:17,510 --> 03:03:14,800 babies and 4122 03:03:18,950 --> 03:03:17,520 imperialism and [\h__\h] like that that was 4123 03:03:21,990 --> 03:03:18,960 cool you know like people give 4124 03:03:24,870 --> 03:03:22,000 alex jones [\h__\h] for right like yeah yeah 4125 03:03:25,590 --> 03:03:24,880 but you know look into it look into it i 4126 03:03:28,790 --> 03:03:25,600 don't know 4127 03:03:29,110 --> 03:03:28,800 we might sound crazy but ah there's it's 4128 03:03:32,389 --> 03:03:29,120 fun 4129 03:03:34,710 --> 03:03:32,399 crazy but it's 4130 03:03:35,429 --> 03:03:34,720 worth looking into right exactly because 4131 03:03:38,150 --> 03:03:35,439 you're about to 4132 03:03:40,469 --> 03:03:38,160 say we'll say that the fraud the turn of 4133 03:03:42,790 --> 03:03:40,479 the frogs gay 4134 03:03:45,030 --> 03:03:42,800 that's what else i'm gonna say no that's 4135 03:03:48,230 --> 03:03:45,040 that's not at all 4136 03:03:51,429 --> 03:03:51,030 oh man well that was a good one man yeah 4137 03:03:53,269 --> 03:03:51,439 uh 4138 03:03:54,950 --> 03:03:53,279 and i think that's that's about it for 4139 03:03:59,429 --> 03:03:54,960 me dude yeah me too brother oh yeah 4140 03:04:03,830 --> 03:04:01,110 oh we hit wedding rings dude oh dude 4141 03:04:13,630 --> 03:04:06,870 yeah it was cool all right my hands are